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Old 11-07-2013, 03:58 PM   #1
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Default What Blackmagic card for 10 bit output of Edius 7

I am looking to get a BMD card to output 10 Bit 1080P.

Is there any practical difference between the Intensity and Decklink range, in the way they output from Edius 7?

Is either range any better for stability?

Is there any latency between their outputs compared to the Edius GUI video overlay?

Can I use an audio out from a Windows output while using video from the BMD?

Can Edius send a 10 Bit output via the HDMI on either range?

Can Edius send a 10 Bit output via the SDI of the Deklink range?

As I am only interested in output, I am looking to buy the cheapest card in either range. Is there any issues with Edius 7 and the lowest cards in the ranges?

Sorry for all the questions. I traditionally use GV hardware but am putting together an edit only system that needs a 10 Bit output and have never used BMD cards before. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:21 PM   #2
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Sorry L., I don't have answers to all your questions ... but I put a bottom of the range Blackmagic Design Decklink Mini Monitor PCIe card in one of our Edius 7 PC's last week ... it works a treat for monitoring out of Edius via both HDMI and SDI ... and now I can monitor from Resolve and the Adobe CC suite apps too.

Good stuff. If I was feeling picky I might wish that Edius would release the card when the app was not the active / foreground process, so that I could switch between apps without having to quit first, but its not really a hardship.

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Old 11-07-2013, 04:27 PM   #3
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Sorry L., I don't have answers to all your questions ... but I put a bottom of the range Blackmagic Design Decklink Mini Monitor PCIe card in one of our Edius 7 PC's last week ... it works a treat for monitoring out of Edius via both HDMI and SDI ... and now I can monitor from Resolve and the Adobe CC suite apps too.

Good stuff. If I was feeling picky I might wish that Edius would release the card when the app was not the active / foreground process, so that I could switch between apps without having to quit first, but its not really a hardship.

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Thanks Andy. Do you notice any latency and can you monitor 10 Bit? Does your audio come from the computer or the Mini Monitor?
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No latency problems at all. Yes, 10 bit output. I monitor audio via SDI from the card, not the PC.
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Her you go, this might be helpful:
http://www.ediusworld.com/en/support..._0917-2013.pdf
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Old 11-07-2013, 04:58 PM   #6
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Do you have a 10 bit panel or do you just want to see an output while using a 10 bit project setting?
Without a 10 bit panel 10bit output is still 8 bit.
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Thanks again Andy. The PDF is a great help. By the looks of it the Mini Monitor is what I need. Do you know if it sends out 10 Bit via HDMI? The PDF is not quite clear on the 10 Bit output being across either/or, or both the SDI and HDMI.
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Do you have a 10 bit panel or do you just want to see an output while using a 10 bit project setting?
Without a 10 bit panel 10bit output is still 8 bit.
Hi Jerry. Looking at getting a 10 Bit HDMI monitor. At present I am monitoring 8 Bit from 10 Bit source.
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It should be. You have notes when its' not, like in case of Intensity PRO, when 10bit is only available for SD resolutions (for SDI and HDMI).
Even if panel is not real 10bit (bit I assume it's decent IPS panel) there is still advantage to monitor and work in Edisu at 10bit.
Yes I agree it should be, it's just that I have had experience of things not being as you think when reading literally.

Am still trying to find a proper 10 bit panel that's affordable, but a good dithered IPS would be suitable for my needs. Thanks.
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When I set the project to 10 bit the Mini monitor outputs a picture through HDMI to my screen. My screen is 8 bit so I cannot tell if it is a true 10 bit picture but it does output, unlike the Intensity Pro that will not output from 10bit EDIUS projects.

The sound is only sent out through the SDI/HDMI in EDIUS which means you have to listed to it on the TV/Monitor you are using for output or send that output to a mixer/speakers. You won't hear anything, when in EDIUS, from the on board sound card. All the other Blackmagic cards have some kind of analogue sound output as well.
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