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Old 08-07-2019, 05:27 PM   #11
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Hi Jerry,

Just a quick note when building a HDR worklfow this is a tidbid to consider.
If you have a "cheap card" that allows for a pass-through of the HDR signal and you don't need SDI acquisition it may be better to invest in an EZIO monitor.


We can switch selected EZIO models to any mode you set in the EDIUS project. This takes a way the issue of the monitor not switching as the EDIUS project will dictate the monitor settings. (via USB cable)

We also do this with the expensive as a car Canon monitors. Those are controlled via a network. I have only testes a hard-wire and that works perfect but this can also be done via wifi IIRC.


Last alternative is the injector which will make the monitor switch if this cannot be done manually.

Hope this helps in a way. :)
Agree 100%.

For those that don't know what an injector is or does, here is a link to a modestly priced one.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_...RoCeXwQAvD_BwE

The optimum setup would go between I/O card to external monitor.
Adding an Eizo HDR monitor with either the Kona 5 or the Decklink Extreme 4K 12G should accomplish that for a price.

The easiest way to categorize creating HDR at this point is 'A rich man's game.'
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Old 08-08-2019, 01:43 AM   #12
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If you have a 10bit Color grading monitor that supports all of the current types of HDR, you will at least have the ability to see what you are doing by way of HDR color adjustments.
Then you can output by way of a compliant render format. Newer machines with QS can output to h.265 10bit video with 4:2:0 chroma sampling.
Otherwise, Handbrake can take an intermediary and create the h 265 file.

Perfect!! that is the answer I was hoping for.
thanks for that Jerry.
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Old 08-08-2019, 02:05 AM   #13
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Your looking at around $2500 for an Eizo HDR monitor. It's a 2.5k monitor, not 4k.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...BI%3A514&smp=y

Then the Mac Daddy:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1425544-REG/eizo_cg319x_4k_bk_31_1_dci_4k_wide_screen.html?ap= y&gclid=CjwKCAjw7anqBRALEiwAgvGgm9vuvERHk88RWliM_O A0C1BoDHsng6cf_Ma2BwTKFCvKrBATbkgVpRoCGwEQAvD_BwE& lsft=BI%3A514&smp=y
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:20 AM   #14
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however, I do not see much point in displaying the poor preview quality of EDIUS on such a monitor

I would use a dedicated output card for such a Monitor
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i agree, but not many cards out there as yet to do hdr and they are very expensive.... HDR...not a cheap way to edit.

althou... the computer monitors are getting better these days... but not recommended to use for colour grading but its a good start.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:54 AM   #16
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Jerry.. have you seen this monitor??
https://www.redsharknews.com/technol...d-dolby-vision
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Old 08-08-2019, 10:39 AM   #17
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It seems to be geared for Dolby Vision HDR. How this will work with HLG and PQ would have to be determined.
For HLG; the specs have to include the BT2020/2100 colorspace. I did not see HLG mentioned specifically in that write up.

The cheapest way to do HDR at this point is with a BM Decklink Extreme and an HDR UHD television capable of switching colorspace manually.
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however, I do not see much point in displaying the poor preview quality of EDIUS on such a monitor

I would use a dedicated output card for such a Monitor
An EDIUS controlled monitor opens the options for "cheaper" output cards for HDR. :)
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--------quote from BH----------
Luminance Warning
The ColorEdge CG319X includes a PQ and HLG Clipping function that shows the areas of an image that display at brightness levels higher than the current setting. The areas that cannot be displayed at the correct brightness with the current settings are shown in yellow or magenta. PQ and HLG Clipping can be viewed for brightness levels of 300, 500, 1000, and 4000 cd/m2.
---------end quote-------------

This description from BH photo is incorrect as only the PQ clipping function offers a choice of 300, 500, 1000, 4000 nits. HLG clipping function is simply OFF or ON. This morning I phoned my Eizo technical support number for clarity and they explained there is no choice of HLG clipping levels on the CG319X because HLG (unlike PQ) is a broadcast format.

I have used HLG from my GH5 camera exclusively for my personal videos this year and love it. Grading strictly for HLG viewing I avoid making a compromise for REC.709 viewing. The Eizo's clipping function (turns magenta if too bright) makes it easy to be sure of how bright the final result will be when viewing on my LG C8 OLED TV.

Not everyone want to wear sunglasses watching the telly LOL!
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Thanks Claire. To help others could you give your workflow and hardware for HDR HLG.
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