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Old 02-20-2014, 10:04 AM   #1
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Default Best Nvidia GPU for Robuskey and Neatvideo?

Both plugins use CUDA. But as seen in AE you don't need the lates greatest card. Eg Robuskey rcommends the following (among others):

GeForce GTX 680
GeForce GTX 670
GeForce GTX 660
GeForce GTX 650

Does anyone here know if there is a difference in acceleration between the 650 and 680? If so how much will the speed increase be between the low and high end model?
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Old 02-20-2014, 11:22 AM   #2
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Couldn't quantify between cards exactly, but I have a 780ti - which is clocked, slightly quicker than a Titan, but costs a lot less, I used EVGA clocking tool to push the base from 960 to 1200 - never runs over 56C when busy - will give real-time with Neat - sometimes, depends on source material - but usually about 20fps so pretty fast to render anyway. 35fps with no temporal filter in Neat. It works really well with Resolve too.

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Old 02-20-2014, 01:30 PM   #3
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While Robuskey needs a decent card, if you are running a slower and/or older processor a fast card can only push so much.
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While Robuskey needs a decent card, if you are running a slower and/or older processor a fast card can only push so much.
Dear Jerry, hopefully someone has answers for the following questions:

1. How much speed will a CUDA card add to Robuskey in general?

2. Will more CUDA cores mean more speed (linear?)?

3. Is memory bandwith something to look at?

4. How important is the size of the graphic card memory?

Some here might know this page:

http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/Menu.htm

They show that a high end card is not neccessarily the fastest one in terms of price/performance Ratio.
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:27 PM   #5
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Any word from the Plug-in Guru?
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Old 02-20-2014, 06:51 PM   #6
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Dear Jerry, hopefully someone has answers for the following questions:

1. How much speed will a CUDA card add to Robuskey in general?

2. Will more CUDA cores mean more speed (linear?)?

3. Is memory bandwith something to look at?

4. How important is the size of the graphic card memory?

Some here might know this page:

http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/Menu.htm

They show that a high end card is not neccessarily the fastest one in terms of price/performance Ratio.
The page that you referred to was testing with AE and Premiere. If you are talking performance in those, I get real time performance with Robuskey using my GTX 285. This card is 1gb of memory and 512bit bandwidth. If this card had more cores and memory, I would never get rid of it.

Yes, bandwidth and amount is important. But, in Edius, the GPU is not used to push anything other than just effects as opposed to the way Premiere uses the GPU to asset the CPU.
Also, Robuskey is written for RGB NLE's. Edius has to convert Robuskey to YUV and back again. This eats up resources.

When using Robuskey, the Edius version used will change your performance result. Edius 6.x and 6.5x have a hard time using Robuskey. Also, rendering time is long. Edius 7, rendering time has been greatly reduced and I can get 19 seconds of RT playback with the GTX 285. Newer cards will probably do better.
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Couldn't quantify between cards exactly, but I have a 780ti - which is clocked, slightly quicker than a Titan, but costs a lot less, I used EVGA clocking tool to push the base from 960 to 1200 - never runs over 56C when busy - will give real-time with Neat - sometimes, depends on source material - but usually about 20fps so pretty fast to render anyway. 35fps with no temporal filter in Neat. It works really well with Resolve too.

Paul :-)
I'm thinking about replacing my GTX 760 with GTX 780 Ti, but i wonder how it will effect on performance in Neat Video. Could you show summary of Neat Video Optimizing performance settings (for FullHD source file):

My 4930 @3.9 GHz (std) and GTX 760 generate:

Frame: 1920x1080 progressive, Radius: 1 frame
Running the test data set on up to 12 CPU cores and on up to 1 GPU

CPU only (1 core): 1.83 frames/sec
CPU only (2 cores): 3.73 frames/sec
CPU only (3 cores): 5.46 frames/sec
CPU only (4 cores): 7.19 frames/sec
CPU only (5 cores): 8.7 frames/sec
CPU only (6 cores): 10.1 frames/sec
CPU only (7 cores): 10.2 frames/sec
CPU only (8 cores): 10.5 frames/sec
CPU only (9 cores): 10.6 frames/sec
CPU only (10 cores): 10.8 frames/sec
CPU only (11 cores): 10.9 frames/sec
CPU only (12 cores): 11 frames/sec
GPU only (GeForce GTX 760): 9.71 frames/sec
CPU (1 core) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 8.7 frames/sec
CPU (2 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 9.8 frames/sec
CPU (3 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 11.8 frames/sec
CPU (4 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 13 frames/sec
CPU (5 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 13.9 frames/sec
CPU (6 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 15.4 frames/sec
CPU (7 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 15.6 frames/sec
CPU (8 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 16.7 frames/sec
CPU (9 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 16.7 frames/sec
CPU (10 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 16.1 frames/sec
CPU (11 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 16.4 frames/sec
CPU (12 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 760): 16.7 frames/sec
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You might be better served with a 4960 and your existing GPU rather than your 4930 and a newer GPU. But the better move will be to the Haswell-E at the end of the year.
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Frankly, I find the temporal filter of little consequence when used on reasonably good quality material, you sure don't want to soften detailed movements between frames, unless that's your aim.

So, first off, check your Neat setting with temporal set to "off" ( 1 means that the previous frame, the current frame and the frame ahead are used to determine temporal noise reduction, this is quite cpu/gpu intensive and reduces temporal detail - so, if you can't "see" the advantage on your footage, switch it off and enjoy real-time from Neat.

This from 4930 at 4.4ghz 780ti at 1200mhz NO temporal filtration.

Frame: 1920x1080 progressive, Radius: 0 frames
Running the test data set on up to 12 CPU cores and on up to 1 GPU

CPU only (1 core): 2.79 frames/sec
CPU only (2 cores): 5.52 frames/sec
CPU only (3 cores): 8.26 frames/sec
CPU only (4 cores): 10.9 frames/sec
CPU only (5 cores): 13.5 frames/sec
CPU only (6 cores): 14.3 frames/sec
CPU only (7 cores): 13.9 frames/sec
CPU only (8 cores): 15.4 frames/sec
CPU only (9 cores): 15.6 frames/sec
CPU only (10 cores): 15.6 frames/sec
CPU only (11 cores): 15.6 frames/sec
CPU only (12 cores): 15.6 frames/sec
GPU only (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 23.8 frames/sec
CPU (1 core) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 27 frames/sec
CPU (2 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 22.7 frames/sec
CPU (3 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 27.8 frames/sec
CPU (4 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 29.4 frames/sec
CPU (5 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 32.3 frames/sec
CPU (6 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 32.3 frames/sec
CPU (7 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 32.3 frames/sec
CPU (8 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 35.7 frames/sec
CPU (9 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 34.5 frames/sec
CPU (10 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 35.7 frames/sec
CPU (11 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 34.5 frames/sec
CPU (12 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti): 34.5 frames/sec

Best combination: CPU (8 cores) and GPU (GeForce GTX 780 Ti)

p.s it hits 21 fps with temporal on 1

all the above with SONY EX1 Native footage.

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