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Old 05-20-2013, 11:55 AM   #1
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Default Old Hi8 tapes to bring into Edius

I have a old Sony Hi8 camcorder and some tapes which I would like to bring into Edius on my USb only VAIO Laptop.
The Sony camcorder has only RCA Jacks (out) and S Video. Someone suggested to buy a USB-cinch video Grabber and import the video into the laptop and then into Edius as it would be digitized.
My question is if I connect the video grabber to the camera and the laptop, would I be able to import the media into Edius ?
Or could someone please suggest a good and cheap way to do this. i have just 4-5 tapes which need to be converted. I attach a picture of the video grabber which is selling very cheap on ebay, but am not sure if it will work.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:11 PM   #2
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The one in the picture is a 4-channel video capture device designed for surveillance use. It is unlikely to give you the resolution you want (it might capture all 4 into one frame), nor does it seem to have stereo audio.

If you can find a Digital8 camera or deck that can output i.LINK/DV. That would give you the best quality transfer. Even borrow one. Or pay someone to do a transfer to DV for you.

The cheap USB capture devices will give you cheap (and generally poor) results.
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Old 05-20-2013, 07:27 PM   #3
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Ultimatedly the best approach for you will be determind by your intended final product/format and your budget.

For 4 or 5 Hi8 tapes your lowest end cost for decent quality may well be to have someone with the needed gear do it for you.

One approach is to find someone with a DVD recorder that has s-video input, dump the tapes to 1- or 2-hour DVDs and use the DVDs as the source for Edius.

Also, some current tape-less camcorder might have analog video input capability. You could feed the Hi8 analog output to the analog input of the camcorder.
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Old 05-20-2013, 09:41 PM   #4
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I used my old Sony TVR 900E to transfer the Hi8 tapes via the S Video output to my HD to use in Edius. Worked great.
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Old 05-21-2013, 06:22 PM   #5
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I've been using a Sony GV-D200 8mm cassette deck. It can play back Video8, Hi8, and Digital8.

For the first two, I've been using the S-video out into my NX card. For Digital8, I use the firewire.

Have I been doing it correctly for the best results for the analog/digital difference?
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Short answer...yes! How do they look?
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For the first two, I've been using the S-video out into my NX card. For Digital8, I use the firewire.
Have I been doing it correctly for the best results for the analog/digital difference?
If it works to your satisfaction you have not been doing it wrong.

You may also be able to capture a DV stream from analog (Hi8 and 8mm) tapes via the GV-D200 IEEE1394 output. I do not know if the quality would be better, worse, or the same (considering the limitations of the source material). Worth doing a comparison with the same sourced tape if/when you have a chance and letting us all know how it went.
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Thanks for the input!

It seems to work well and look good using those respective methods for the analog and digital format tapes.

IIRC, someone, somewhere told me along time ago that the NX, Storm, etc., capture cards did a better job of rendering analog signals via S-video, than the internal hardware firewire pass-through on a deck or camcorder.

I was kind of looking for validation on that from anyone who might know the technical aspects of analog to firewire pass-through vs. S-video capture using a quality capture card.
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Advantage on the internal analog->DV conversion is there is a minimal analog path, so the theory is there is little place to introduce additional noise.

Advantage of taking the analog path and capturing with NX/Storm is that you gain its filtering in the AD converter.

So... while you might introduce a tiny bit of noise into the signal (shouldn't be a problem if you have good cables and aren't doing something silly) you get the benefits of the signal filtering.

If you have a clean signal, there probably won't be much, if any difference. But it might help for older stuff, and let's face it - analog tapes are rarely clean, especially today. :)

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Thanks, Brandon!

That helps. I may try a comparison with both methods just to see if I can discern any difference.

The good news is that I haven't screwed things up too badly by doing one or the other!
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