Grass Valley Forums Facebook   Twitter   YouTube  

Go Back   Grass Valley Forums > Editors > EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-18-2018, 10:56 AM   #1
David Clarke
Senior Member
 
David Clarke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Uk
Posts: 2,272
Default Recommendations for editing 50P UHD at 10 bit

I have a customer who wants to edit UHD 50P GH5 footage at 10 bit, monitoring through a Blackmagic card. His footage is generally wildlife and the heaviest amount of work he wants is to play footage in slow motion, with colour correction added and a title over the top, perhaps with the occasional dissolve to another clip.

I have tried two set ups:
  • A Coffee Lake i7 with Quick Sync and an nVidia 1060.
  • A 14 core i9 with an nVidia 980.

The i9 is better than the i7 in that it can play frame blended slow mo, with a YUV curve and 3 way CC added, but can't cope with a Primary colour corrector. If I drop to 8 bit it can play the PCC as well as the other stuff. I did set the 980 to do the Primary colour corrector.

The Coffee Lake does slightly less all round in EDIUS. In other programs the i9 is staggeringly better. Rendering a scene out of Cinema 4D it was almost twice as fast. Obviously Quick Sync playback is helping the Coffee Lake perform better.

Is there a processor set up anyone has used that can manage this playback - slow mo, PCC and title with transition at 10 bit - without dropping frames?

Since I don't make lots of systems any more I don't get to play with as much new hardware as I would like so I have not been able to try dual Xeons etc.
__________________
EDIUS silver certified trainer.
Main edit laptop: DVC Kaby Lake desktop processor laptop, 32GB RAM, 3.5Ghz i5 desktop processor, nVidia 1060, Windows 10.
Desktop: 3.7Ghz Coffee Lake processor, 32GB RAM, ATI 7800 GPU, Windows 10.
Desktop: 2Ghz 12 core Xeon processor, 32GB RAM, nVidia 1060, BM Intensity Pro, Windows 10
David Clarke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-19-2018, 05:11 PM   #2
CentralEurope
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Austria / Center from €urope
Posts: 1,660
Default

hello Dave ..... If you wish, I can try this project with:

Intel 18cores/36 threads
this week with AMD Radeon RX 580, 8GB
next week (so I hope) with Zotiac GTX 1080 AMP, 8GB

Please, can you give me the (Test)Project .ezp + some source-file on a download-place??

We need imho a "new Greece project" for binding comparisons....


friendly greetings ... Hans
__________________
CentralEurope aka Hans
voluntary / unpaid moderator from the german GV-forum ... Edius 4.61 up to Edius 9.xx
i9-7980XE 18cores/36threads - PCIe-M.2 960PRO 512GB - 32GB DDR4-3600 - RX 580 8GB - Win_10prof
[AMD 1950X 16cores / 32 threads = go return because of massive problems, Not only I had these problems]
CentralEurope is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 09:16 AM   #3
David Clarke
Senior Member
 
David Clarke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Uk
Posts: 2,272
Default

I will put a project with some footage together and link to it here. I am not hopeful you will do well with the 18 core. This i9 is amazingly fast as many things - it is almost twice as fast at rendering some scenes from Cinema 4D than the Coffee Lake but is not to great when it comes to playing 50P footage. I am assuming I need a really fast dual Xeon system for this.
__________________
EDIUS silver certified trainer.
Main edit laptop: DVC Kaby Lake desktop processor laptop, 32GB RAM, 3.5Ghz i5 desktop processor, nVidia 1060, Windows 10.
Desktop: 3.7Ghz Coffee Lake processor, 32GB RAM, ATI 7800 GPU, Windows 10.
Desktop: 2Ghz 12 core Xeon processor, 32GB RAM, nVidia 1060, BM Intensity Pro, Windows 10
David Clarke is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 10:50 PM   #4
noafilm
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 503
Default

I don't have 4K 50p 10bit files but I tested with 4K 25P 10 bit 150mbs, 4K 25P 10bit 400mbs and 4K 50P 8bit 150mbs files in a 4K 10bit 50p project, The 4K 50p 10bit files will be more taxing for the system but the ones I mentioned play without any stutter with a YUV curve, 3 way CC, frameblended slomo and dissolves applied.

It can also hanlde PCC with full buffer but the buffer drains as soon as it has to deal with a dissolve.

If I add a title as well on top it takes a bit longer to fill the buffer at the start of a clip but then runs with a full buffer and it also takes a bit longer to recover from a dissolve (with pcc aplied to the cllips)

system specs in my signature

Interesting to know, if I deselect my GPU in the system settings under primary color correction I get better playback performance, as soon as I select the gpu the buffer doesn't even fill up so it looks my cpu is better at dealing with the PCC, you might try to deselect that to see if you gain anything in playback..
__________________
Threadripper 1950x 10% overclocked, Edius 8+9, Asus PRIME X399-A, 32GB 3200-16 Vengeance LPX running @ 3200mhz, Palit 6GB GTX 1060 StormX, Enermax LiqTech TR4 240 watercooling, Antec EDGE 750 powersupply, Intensity pro 4K, 250GB 960 EVO for OS, 1TB 960 EVO and 6TB WD black drive for editing, Fractal D. Define XL R2 case, win 10 pro and a Steinberg ur22mkII audio interface with rokit5 krk studiomonitors

Last edited by noafilm; Yesterday at 10:57 PM.
noafilm is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
 
Go Back   Grass Valley Forums > Editors > EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
UHD (4K) 10 bit HDR REC2020 (BT2020) from Edius – is it possible? Peterjames Editing with EDIUS 9 12-27-2016 10:12 AM
UHD (4K) 50p video output from E8.2 Peterjames EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories 10 08-16-2016 06:47 PM
8 bit Vs 10 bit editing Jim N Editing with EDIUS 17 04-12-2016 08:12 PM
XAVC Long GOP UHD 50p difficult to handle in Edius 8 createmedia Editing with EDIUS 26 01-16-2016 11:52 PM
HDMI to Display Port 10 bit editing shueardm EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories 13 01-02-2012 11:57 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 02:14 AM.


Copyright © 2014 Belden Inc. All rights reserved.