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Old 11-29-2018, 07:49 PM   #1
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Can anyone point me to a spec that will identify key components for a "low-end" Edius based system, i.e., video card spec, minimum system mem for good results primarily editing HD, perhaps 4K in the future. Where nI work they just won't spend a bunch of money as video is not the primary product.

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Old 11-29-2018, 07:54 PM   #2
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https://www.grassvalley.com/products/edius_pro_9/

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Old 11-29-2018, 08:47 PM   #3
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I think something like a I7 8700k, 32gigs of memory, a gtx 1060 6gb card, a 500gb ssd for the os, a 2tb ssd as your edit drive and another 6TB regular harddrive would be a good start.
The 8700 will also allow to use quicksync and if you overclock it then editing HD should be a piece of cake, just make sure you have got good cooling. Even for 4K it would do fine. If you want to make 4K editing easier just switch a a HD project while editing and to a 4K project to export.
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Try a HP Stream 11 laptop for a low cost laptop solution, it also has an HDMI output.

Also try a BeeBox or any NUC from the last 4 years, these are a good low cost desktop solution in an ultra small footprint.

It's not worth talking 4K recommendations as there is no low cost solution that'd do HD now and then 4K later. If you know you are gonna do 4K sometime in the near future, then you need to rethink your budget. If 4K is much further down the line, don't bother yourself with it now and just configure for HD, as chipsets, sockets, memory etc. may change during that time anyway.

When you do get around to 4K, using Workgroup will be a real help to maximise the CPU to keep the cost down, as you can lower preview quality.
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I think something like a I7 8700k, 32gigs of memory, a gtx 1060 6gb card, a 500gb ssd for the os, a 2tb ssd as your edit drive and another 6TB regular harddrive would be a good start.
The 8700 will also allow to use quicksync and if you overclock it then editing HD should be a piece of cake, just make sure you have got good cooling. Even for 4K it would do fine. If you want to make 4K editing easier just switch a a HD project while editing and to a 4K project to export.
Hi Noa.

That spec you've mentioned isn't a low end one and is way over the top for a basic 4K system, let alone HD.

Just to be clear, and here's a few points for anyone to bear in mind.

A Gen4 CPU will easily do HD with Edius, a 8700K is complete overkill for a basic HD system, even with the view to go 4K down the line.

Edius will run on 2GB, although I'd recommend a minimum of 4. I've never seen Edius use anywhere near even 8GB, so 32GB is not just complete overkill but a proper waste of money.

Edius doesn't need a dedicated GPU, so a 1060 is again overkill for a 'low cost' solution. Bear in mind the vast majority of Edius' processing is, and will always be, CPU driven. QuickSync does more for Edius than any dedicated GPU. I personally wouldn't even consider a GPU for a low cost Edius machine.

Windows is only about 16GB and Edius only a few itself, 500GB for a boot drive is a total waste of money, 128 will easily do and have a lot of space to spare.

As for media drives. This all depends on what's being shot. To keep costs down I'd recommend a fast mechanical drive, the CPU will usually crap out before the drive becomes a bottleneck. I'd just recommend get the most space you can, again though, depending on the type of codecs being used. Drive space is really like 'how long is a piece of string'.

For resolution switching, Workgroup's extra functionality maybe a better spend. Although I personally think it's far too expensive, it does have a few killer functions especially to assist with preview resolution.

As an example of a cheap system for HD. I've just picked up a five year old Dell workstation second hand from eBay for 135. It's got a Haswell four core i5, 8 gig ram, 128gb SSD and it flies with HD and will do a certain amount of 4K/UHD. That's an example of a low cost Edius host that'll work very well.

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Hi Jim.

Here's two videos that'll give you a very good idea of what's achievable with a low cost machine.

The machine here wasn't low cost when I built it but you could pick up one like this for anywhere between 300 to 400. It's based on an i7 4790K (not even overclocked) 8GB RAM, 128GB system drive and no extra GPU.

The first video is an edit done with this machine. It's all UHD footage that's manipulated in a HD project with E8.5 workgroup. The vast majority of this edit was in real time, for the the bits that weren't I just switched to low preview mode in Workroup to keep the timeline real time. There are some complicated composites which not even the most expensive off the shelf PC could do in real time. These where rendered.

The second video is long and boring but I recommend you watch it as it's got a lot of info that may help. It's basically me explaining to a friend who's on Vegas, the reason why Edius is the best NLE.

Here's the unboxing video.
https://youtu.be/SJTtjJFpDbQ




Here's the walk through.
https://youtu.be/HVOQ-10aVdk



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That spec you've mentioned isn't a low end one and is way over the top for a basic 4K system, let alone HD.
Ow, I missed the low end part, in that case I'd suggest a i7 8700 (without the k) 16gb memory, no videocard, 256gb ssd for os and a 2tb harddrive for edit, a stock aircooler should be fine as well. Anything cheaper I'd consider a waste of money because once you start dealing with 4K you start looking for a upgrade again.
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Just out of curiousity I assembled a pc on the site from pcspecialist with the parts I recommended and incl the operating system (win 10 home) it only was 756euro tax excl. That I would consider low end.
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I think that once one looks at getting EDIUS low cost is not part of the issue as EDIUS itself is more expensive than most low cost PC systems. EDIUS Pro 9 WG is $880. For the same amount of money one can get a Lenovo Thinkstation with i7 8700 ( not K ) system.
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I think that once one looks at getting EDIUS low cost is not part of the issue as EDIUS itself is more expensive than most low cost PC systems. EDIUS Pro 9 WG is $880. For the same amount of money one can get a Lenovo Thinkstation with i7 8700 ( not K ) system.
Hi Ron.

If one already has Edius then one can install it on three machines. Therefore a cheap machine makes sense. I've just bought a 135 PC that works great at HD, even a cuts only UHD project. I'm using this mostly as an ingest machine, why would I want to spend more money than is necessary.

Besides, it doesn't matter if someone thinks that their version of a level entry machine is closer to 1000, or if the justification for spending too much on a machine is because Edius is expensive in the first place. The simple fact of this thread is that Jim already stated he wanted a 'low end' option.

In my opinion paying close to 1000,,$, simply isn't a 'low end' option.

Jim. If I get time I'll do a quick video showing what a second hand 135 PC will do with Edius, seriously, it's all you'd need for a 'low end' PC that's capable of HD and will even do UHD to a degree. Or if you can stretch to between 300 to 400 and shop about for a second hand one similar to the one I use in the video examples I posted obove, you'd get an excellent Edius HD machine that'll also see you right as you take your first steps into full 4K/UHD projects.

And for anyone else who thinks that just throwing money at a problem will make it all good. Take a look at around the forum.

Cheers,
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