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Old 09-09-2017, 10:33 PM   #1
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Default amd vs intel for edius WG

I have searched the forum to get an answer but I am still a bit confused, going to buy a new pc for edius 8WG but not planning to spend a very high amount. Currently it's either going to be a I7 7700K or a amd ryzen 7 1800x. I know more multicore cpu's are coming out for amd and intel but they are a bit above my budget.

I only edit 4K from camera's like the panasonic gh4/5/g80 and often do up to 4 camera's multicam.

Does Edius benefit more from quicksync or will 4 extra cores make all the difference? A smooth editing experience is preferable but also fast render times.
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Old 09-09-2017, 11:16 PM   #2
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I have searched the forum to get an answer but I am still a bit confused, going to buy a new pc for edius 8WG but not planning to spend a very high amount. Currently it's either going to be a I7 7700K or a amd ryzen 7 1800x. I know more multicore cpu's are coming out for amd and intel but they are a bit above my budget.

I only edit 4K from camera's like the panasonic gh4/5/g80 and often do up to 4 camera's multicam.

Does Edius benefit more from quicksync or will 4 extra cores make all the difference? A smooth editing experience is preferable but also fast render times.
My advice is to wait for Coffeelake. Ryzen is not the clear winner that 8 cores ought to make it out to be, and whether that's due to peak clockspeed, avx-256 support, or some weirdness in cross-core traffic, if you must buy ~today, and you're looking in the <$500 range, I think waiting for CL in October would be wise. CL will give you QS and 6 cores.

The performance I've heard about from the 7900X leads me to think that it and the 7940 are going to be very good choices now and in October. I'm resistant, given Intel's history of socket shenanigans, but that's a personal bias.

Ryzen lit a fire under Intel, and now their release schedules have moved forward -- that's a good thing for you, take advantage of it. Wait six weeks -- there are a *lot* of releases happening in October, not the least of which is a little more info on Edius 9, which might provide guidance as well.
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Old 09-10-2017, 08:44 AM   #3
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Thx for the advice! I"m not in a hurry so I can wait it out, much depends how much these new cpu's will cost but if these 6core cpu's give QS as well that at least is a +.
edit: I just see the 7900x will be 1000€ and the 7940x 1500€, ouch. I hope that the new releases will be a bit more budgetfriendly.
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Old 09-10-2017, 09:18 AM   #4
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I've seen estimated pricing for the 8700k to be around $349 here in the US. You will also need an 1151 version 2 motherboard for the coffee lake chips.
https://www.extremetech.com/computin...erboard-socket
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Why don't Grassvalley do as what Canopus did, before they bought Canopus is to have a list of computer parts motherboards etc that will work with their software, this info should be on their website or forum, so we the Edius user don't have to be experimenting with this and that computer parts at a cost to us the end user of Edius.
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I've never had an issue matching parts for systems that will be used with Edius.
It comes down to research and knowing what is required for the correct formula. Oh yes, there is a formula.
How the system is going to be used and performance expectations should be assessed before setting out to look for components.
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But remember with Canopus they provided us with the list of motherboards, graphics cards etc, because their tech guys got involved. With Grassvalley tech guys they are all laid back. They leave all the work to you guys in the forum to help.
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When Canopus was around there wasn't as many options for systems. Back then, accelerator cards were involved and changes in hardware wasn't coming daily. The motherboard had to work with the accelerator card first and foremost. That was why specific hardware was suggested.

Edius will work with a lot of hardware. It comes down to matching more than brands and deciding what you need to get your desired level of performance.

Don't expect a system built for HD to perform well with 4k-8k material. Don't expect any of the current crop of chips to edit 4K as your HD system edits HD. The technology just isn't here yet.
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There's always the option to use an Edius integrator to build your system.
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Speaking as someone who was a specialist systems integrator for years and just had to give up because we could not make enough money...

In the days of Canopus things were more expensive and there was margin to spend time investigating what motherboards were best and advising people. Also more people were buy and upgrading = more cash for help.

These days everyone wants everything as cheap as possible, even free, and they expect 100% help over everything, for free.

Plus everything has got more complicated. We used to have just tape formats, and the biggest choice was Betamax over VHS. Now we have hundreds of different file formats, 8 but, 10 bit, RAW and HDR and all it needs to work 100% all the time or the makers get flamed in forums - which happens a lot more on other manufacturers forums than here : EDIUS users are a very nice bunch one the whole.

It just the way the world has changed.
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