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Old 12-05-2015, 03:43 PM   #1
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Default Export Quality vs Premiere

Hi,
Just show a HDR video using Canon 5D Mark III in FHD and the output is brilliant!
Edius has a problem in general: reduce export quality noticeable!
I import that recorded video in Edius 7.5 and just select it without any effect and export.
Quality is reduced in compare with Adobe Premiere export quality!
I tried Bluray exporter and even uncompressed avi or some others, same!
What's the trick?!
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Old 12-05-2015, 10:11 PM   #2
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As far as I know HDR is actually unsupported in Edius! It would need more support for more
extended color spaces such as rec.2020. In general it is always better if you describe what
formats & what parameters you have choosen on export. May you did something wrong on
export & nobody can see that point. If you use GrassValley-HQX-QT or -AVI flavour on export
you wouldn't see any noticeable reduced quality if color space transformation is not an issue.

MP4 in Edius (simple one-pass encoder) is another story. It does not much efficient encoding,
the quality can appear poor on fast motion & lower nominal export bitrates. Forget the MP4
encoder in Edius (sorry to say) and use one of the many X264-based one of the freeware
community, such as Handbrake.

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Old 12-06-2015, 12:25 AM   #3
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From Adobe:

The November 2015 release of Premiere Pro CC delivers UltraHD and HDR format support, powerful slow-motion capabilities, improved integration with CC libraries and Adobe Stock, enhanced touch capabilities, and many other features that help you create compelling video content.
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Old 12-06-2015, 12:50 AM   #4
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I hope Dolby HDR gets the nod. Once broadcast gets involved standards will have to be solidified. After that happens manufacturers will have to conform.
Especially, here in the US.
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:04 AM   #5
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Here are the tools for HDR in Premiere.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsn4...33268693358004
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Old 12-06-2015, 01:33 AM   #6
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This is CC 2015.1 which is available now.
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Old 12-06-2015, 02:13 AM   #7
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I have it.
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Old 12-06-2015, 02:52 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by More4K View Post
With whole Dolby reputation it's still not enough to rule market, as to many companies (with much bigger pockets) are involved.
Dolby is known for their "license to print money" without giving a real value!
Dolby often makes things more complicated in the workflow. And for sure we
wouldn't have any free tool for dcinema if Dolby would take any role of the spec.
Dolby created Atmos to find their way back to the cinema workflows. So they can
send their consultants again to the audio facilities, having the magic black measuring
box in their bag to give it a reason to can collect tons of money from every single
participant.

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Old 12-06-2015, 12:03 PM   #9
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Until 4K/UHD has a proper global delivery standard, like DVD and Blu-Ray did. I doubt very much we will see HDR. Without a domestic market and playback equipment to sell something into, certain technologies won't be introduced.

Although HDR isn't necessarily mutual to 4K/UHD/2020. We still haven't seen any of these technologies take a grip. In fact. We should already have seen 4K/2020 being a something, look back at posts on this forum with regard the subject, well over a year ago. Aside from maybe Japan, UHDBR hasn't been released, let alone done anything, or at least I can't go down to Asda buy one and pick up some discs. And I'm still yet to see a 2020 TV.

Even if/when the tech and software become a global domestic reality, it won't rival anything that's preceded it. At least from the perspective of it's speed of penetration.

So, without a basic technical platform to deliver into that encompasses new standards. It's difficult to see any further standards or technologies being introduced that haven't already been accounted for in any new platform, any time soon.

All things being said, HDR would be a great option if it were able to be fully exploited by the end user. But will it ever see the light of day, outside of maybe cinema?
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The Vizio Reference sets have Dolby HDR and 2020 WCG.

This was posted by a reviewer:
The Reference is a 120 Hz, 384-zone FALD LCD that supports Dolby Vision HDR. Available in two sizes—65" and 120"—it features
an expanded color gamut that fully encompasses the DCI-P3 specification and covers 70% of the BT.2020 gamut.

The sets don't have HDMI 2.0a, but can be updated to it.
Until then, HDR content that isn't Dolby HDR(doesn't require HDMI 2.0)
will be handled as regular content.
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