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Old 07-28-2016, 01:11 AM   #21
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Half of an hour ago following e-mail arrived:

Hi folks — today we’re releasing PluralEyes 4.1, an update to our tool for audio/video sync in seconds. To celebrate, we’re offering 25% off PluralEyes for the next 24 hours.

Includes: Full licenses, Upgrades, and Academic Store (which is already 50% off)
Sales ends: 7/28/16 at 10:00 AM PDT
Use Code: PLURALEYES25
Thanks strange for this. Just purchased went to install got all the way to the end and got this error "Missing MSVCP140.dll " and would not install found this fix on YouTube worked great installed. Just got to test now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-CgFu71PTk

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Old 07-28-2016, 11:27 PM   #22
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Still same.. No extension for EDIUS 8
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Old 07-29-2016, 12:06 AM   #23
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all video media must have the same frame rate; mixed frame rates projects are not supported by the EDIUS XML import
please solve this problem((
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Old 07-29-2016, 03:25 AM   #24
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please solve this problem((
Just tried pluraleyes 4.1 with a previous project I completed with 3 cameras aligning audio and video manually.
Tried to import project after using Pluraleys as described crashed 3 times.even deleted 1 track and tried with 2 camera tracks still no good.
Redgiant don't even have a forum anymore were you can discuss with other using having same problem you have to raise a ticket and just wait, then reply and then wait to slow. I didn't have this problem with Pluraleyes 2 using same cameras on Edius 6.08. My own fault I should have just waited till someone else had tried with Edius 8.2 and got an answer of a fix.
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Old 07-29-2016, 08:03 PM   #25
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Default Pluraleyes 4.1.0 review

On the EDIUS forum, you will see my workflow with AAF projects from Edius and Pluraleyes 3. http://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/s...mp;postcount=1 This workflow always had it's limitations e.g. Not handling video clips that are spread over spanned files correctly (found on memory cards), no audio drift correction and unable to mix frame rates.

On July 2016 Red Giant release Pluraleyes 4.1 which supposedly now supports EDIUS but no longer supports Avid’s AAF project files.

It was always a hit and miss importing a Premiere’s XML project file into EDIUS, especially when the video clips are spread over spanned files (found on memory cards). Red Giant have a Pluraleyes extension for Sony Vegas and Adobe Premiere which works better than using the standalone program (explain later). But at present (July 2016) they have not reintroduced a Pluraleyes extension plug-in for EDIUS 8 similar to the old version 2 that worked with EDIUS 6.5 (back then Pluraleyes was owned by Singular).

The core of Pluraleyes program seems to only read and write XML files. Version 2 had an extension plug-in that communicated between EDIUS timeline and Pluraleyes. The extension creates a temporary type of XML file only Pluraleyes understands and when Pluraleyes is finished processing another temporary XML file is created for the extension to make a new sync EDIUS timeline. At present, it’s still the most reliable way of reading and writing the editing program’s timeline rather than importing and exporting an XML file into the standalone program.
XML files are normally associated with a program or website settings/data. XML files are human-readable but unfortunately, it’s markup tags doesn’t always follow an interchangeable format, making the file incompatible with other programs. Final Cut Pro has tried to make an interchangeable format see here https://documentation.apple.com/en/f...3%26tasks=true
When you look at the bugs fixed over Pluraleyes updates, you will see lots of XML compatible problems fixed.
The new GV Browser creates an XML file to import the Browser’s catalogs into EDIUS bins. Unfortunately, these XML files can’t be imported into Pluraleyes which is a pity but you can drag and drop video/audio files from the GV Browser to Pluraleyes.
I did find EDIUS could import the XML file from Pluraleyes 3 if the video clips are not spanned files (found on memory cards). Pluraleyes 4.1 creates a new type of XML file to be more compatible with EDIUS but I still get an error message when importing some video formats that use spanned files (EDIUS is selected at Pluraleyes export and the frame rate is matching the EDIUS project). Although there’s an error message the files will now import into the bin with the sync sequence, but again the spanned files don’t appear joined up. Luckily EDIUS knows they are spanned files and you can extend the clip to its full length on the timeline. A solution is to use the free program Sony Catalyst Browse which can import/copy spanned files to create one complete joined up clip without transcoding. You can join spanned files from other AVCHD cameras but only Sony footage can be viewed in Catalyst Browse.

Pluraleyes sync XML file doesn’t contain a list of timeline timecodes but instead uses frame numbers to determine where a clip position should be on a timeline. Using frames rather than timecode allows Pluraleyes to sync clips of mixed framerates . The frame rate and timecode data of the first track are used to start the frame number count and position.

EDIUS doesn’t import mixed or mismatch frame rate projects, including its own project format .ezp. Also, FCP 7 XML and AAF projects containing mixed or mismatch frame rate footage, can not be imported into an EDIUS timeline.

I’m very frustrated that EDIUS still splits the stereo tracks into separate left and right tracks when importing by XML or AAF (Final Cut 7 and Avid MC splits the stereo tracks). Also, it would be a better workflow if EDIUS or GV Browser could export a compatible XML for Pluraleyes to sync.

If you are having trouble with importing the XML sync sequence, e.g. footage in spanned files, different framerates or you don’t like how EDIUS splits the stereo tracks into separate left and right tracks when importing from an XML or AAF project, you could try my workflow using sync markers, (my converter creates milliseconds markers for accurate conversion and is suitable for all framerates) SEE BELOW https://ediusireland.wordpress.com/
The workflow extracts the data from Pluraleyes XML, deletes duplicated timecodes (you can’t have markers with the same timecode), and creates sync markers (the markers names will be same as the video and audio files) for the video and audio clips to be placed to the prefer timeline tracks at the correct sync timecode. See my video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUh4WtnclAs
It might sound a slow process, but with practice, it can be done fast. You can make the edit-line jump to the marker on the timeline by finding the marker in the list and double clicking it or use my AutoHotkey script here https://goo.gl/lR2FKc.

You will sometimes find clips out of sync by 1 or 2 frames because both Pluraleyes and EDIUS timelines work only with frames instead of milliseconds making the framerate conversions less accurate, e.g. rounding up or down the decimal calculation to a complete frame.

I use this program https://code.google.com/archive/p/jumplist-extender/ to add a Jumplist shortcut to EDIUS icon in the taskbar see this post https://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/...4&postcount=38
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:22 PM   #26
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Talking Plural Eyes 4.1 and Edius 8.2!

Thank you GreenGrass and congratulations for your workaround!
I have filmed a concert with three cameras and, of course, after some 15 minutes the violin bow strokes were lagging behind etc.
I initially was happy to read about Plural Eyes 4.1 and downloaded the trial version. It all looked very nice and easy until I imported the xml file in Edius 8.2.
Not only was there an error message (I was warned about that), but suddenly I no longer had three video tracks but 15!! And still not all clips were present. Utter disaster.
I followed Greengrass' instructions and was able to import the sync points without a hitch. I noticed only one possible bug: three tracks created with camera 2 were correctly synced, but the names of the three tracks were reversed in time i.e. the first track was positioned last an the third track came first. The position of the sync points, however, was correct, at least when the tracks were inserted in the correct order. It might also be that Plural Eyes has made that error: I will check tonight.
Anyway, this is a great workaround. I hope Red Giant will learn from this and deliver a decent export file. Also, if there still is a plugin for Premiere Pro, why not for Edius or Avid ??
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Old 08-07-2016, 09:15 PM   #27
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I have updated my Pluraleyes 4.1 post with more details.
Also check out my new post "Syncing by Timecode with Tentacle Sync" here http://forum.grassvalley.com/forum/s...330#post280330
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Old 10-31-2016, 07:47 PM   #28
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I'm still using older PE 2.03 and Edius 6.5 for most multicam stuff.

Today however I decided to try Plural Eyes 4.1 + Edius 8.2 . The shoot has 5 video sources and one audio source. Event lenght is 3 hours. To start I drag all the clips 6 tracks in proper sequence.

All in all there are 59 clips that PE 4.1 identifies coming from 59 separate sources and throws on to 59 separate tracks as soon as it starts synchronizing. I did not find a setting to disable that behaviour. Although the program seems to find place for each clip the result is a mess. On top of that clips are of a mixed framerate, incluting 29.97, 59.94 and 30fps (for a computer screen recording). Besides the program does not allow to export a mixed framerate project to Edius. Currently PE 4.1 export capabilities for Edius are insufficient. Looking forward to further PE improvements and enhanced support.

I was ready to try the method as described by Grean Grass but could not find PE_XML_to_Edius.xls file as described at https://ediusireland.wordpress.com/2...raleyes-v3-v4/

Meanwhile doing multicams the old way -> PE 2.03 + Edius 6.5.

Green Grass thanks for sharing info about Tentacle Sync, I'll dig deeper to find how it fits our needs and budget.
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Old 11-14-2016, 03:44 PM   #29
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I was ready to try the method as described by Grean Grass but could not find PE_XML_to_Edius.xls file as described at https://ediusireland.wordpress.com/2...raleyes-v3-v4/[/B]
Sorry for the broken link to my Pluraleyes converter to timeline sync markers.

You will find all the information about this workflow here https://ediusireland.wordpress.com/ and you can download the PE_XML_to_Edius.xls file here https://goo.gl/lR2FKc
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Old 11-15-2016, 05:00 AM   #30
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I use a quick workaround. I subscribe to Adobe CC so I did a test. I loaded premiere and dropped the clips on the timeline. Premiere has made their sync feature very easy to use. Once clips are on the Premiere timeline you just have to lasso all the clips, right click on them and select syncronize. It did it pretty quick on my test. Then just export as a FCP XML. Then just import the XML file into edius and Viola! Perfect sync.
If uyour subscribing to Adobe for other products like I do, might as well take advantage of this feature for no additional cost to you. I won't edit in Premiere(too slow to navigate it) Edius is much faster. Hope this helps. I wish Edius would implement this feature and have it work the same exact way, it's pretty awesome.
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