Grass Valley Forums Facebook   Twitter   YouTube  

Go Back   Grass Valley Forums > Editors > Editing with EDIUS

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-17-2015, 07:37 PM   #1
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default Best approach needed from camera to exporting timeline for online viewing

Wanting to start posting a few videos of my daughter's soccer games to Shutterfly.

I'm shooting with the highest resolution using a TM700 camcorder, putting the files on a 1920i project setting (have tried other settings). Then burning a Blu-Ray and then converting to SD to burn a DVD.

As a final step, I want to do a HD export of 90 minutes of video and keep it under 2 GB. I can break it up into segments if needed.

What render format and settings would result in the best viewing experience for users viewing via their PC once I post the video?

Thanks...Alan
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 08:01 PM   #2
Liverpool TV
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Liverpool, England.
Posts: 2,885
Default

You won't get 90 minutes of 1080 into 2GB.

Regardless of bitrate or file size, your best option is h.264 If you want the smallest highest quality h.264/MP4 you need to use X264 as the encoder. There are many GUI interfaces for X264, the easiest is probably HandBrake.

www.HandBrake.fr
__________________
"There's only one thing more powerful than knowledge. The free sharing of it"

If you don't know the difference between Azimuth and Asimov, then either your tapes sound bad and your Robot is very dangerous. Kill all humans...... Or your tape deck won't harm a human, and your Robot's tracking and stereo imagining is spot on.

Is your Robot three laws safe?
Liverpool TV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 08:21 PM   #3
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Liverpool TV View Post
You won't get 90 minutes of 1080 into 2GB.

Regardless of bitrate or file size, your best option is h.264 If you want the smallest highest quality h.264/MP4 you need to use X264 as the encoder. There are many GUI interfaces for X264, the easiest is probably HandBrake.

www.HandBrake.fr
Thank you for your reply.

So just export timeline to h.264, then process that file with HandBrake?
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 08:57 PM   #4
Peterjames
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 480
Default

No, you will need to export an intermediate file from the edius timeline then use this in Handbrake and convert to your mp4.

I think the latest version of handbrake will accept a canopus lossless avi file from the edius timeline. Best to try a short test first rather than export complete timeline.

Last edited by Peterjames; 11-19-2015 at 09:01 AM.
Peterjames is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 09:12 PM   #5
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterjames View Post
No, you will need to export an intermediate file from the edius timeline then use this in Handbrake and convert to your mp4.

I think the latest version of handbrake may accept an HQX avi file from edius if not try a canopus lossless file from the timeline. Best to try a short test first rather than export complete timeline.
Thank you. I will test that.
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 10:11 PM   #6
Raja
Senior Member
 
Raja's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 624
Default

I export to Canopus HQ and then use TMPEG Mastering Works to encode using x264. Works great.
You could use TMPEG as a plugin within Edius and use the x264 encoder directly from the timeline, saving an extra step.
__________________
Raja Singh
Sadha Video
UK
1st:HDStorm+expansion bay,i7 3770K Ivy Bridge, Asus P8Z77-V,16Gb Corsair RAM,nvidia GT-650,Lian Li PC-A7110B Tower Case,NEC 24" Monitor,Win7 64bit,Vistitle 2.6,Edius 8.2
2nd:HDSpark, i7 3770K Ivy Bridge, Asus P8Z77-V,16Gb Corsair RAM,nvidia GT-650, Lian-Li case, Asus 24" Monitor,Win7 64bit,Vistitle 2.6,Edius 8.2
3rd:IntensityPro4K,i7 4790K,Asus Z97-K,16Gb Corsair RAM,Geforce GTX750Ti,Corsair case,Asus 24"Monitor, Win7 64bit,Vistitle2.6,Edius 8.2
Gigabit Ethernet
Raja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 10:48 PM   #7
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja View Post
I export to Canopus HQ and then use TMPEG Mastering Works to encode using x264. Works great.
You could use TMPEG as a plugin within Edius and use the x264 encoder directly from the timeline, saving an extra step.
I installed the trial version. A big difference in contrast between the TMPEG version (more contrast) and the Edius version.
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 11:18 PM   #8
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raja View Post
I export to Canopus HQ and then use TMPEG Mastering Works to encode using x264. Works great.
You could use TMPEG as a plugin within Edius and use the x264 encoder directly from the timeline, saving an extra step.
Do you have any suggestions on tweaking? I just exported x264 with all default settings and it does not look as good as what I got from using the AVCHD exporter. This is after my upload.

Motion looks a lot blurrier. May be a Shutterfly problem.

Looks OK loading it in VLC.
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-17-2015, 11:40 PM   #9
antonsvideo
Senior Member
 
antonsvideo's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 21,923
Default

I would choose 1280x720 for web use, set level to main and 3.1

make sure you set crop to custom and all values to 0

make sure you set constant frame rate and not the default of variable

set the bitrate manually, say 2000 or less (even 1200 looks good) and set 2 pass with turbo first pass

untick the use of chapters

tick web optimized

set audio to stereo mode with 256 bitrate
__________________
Anton Strauss
Antons Video Productions - Sydney

EDIUS 9 WG with Matrox MXO2, Asrock X99 Extreme 6, Intel Core i7 5960X Extreme Haswell-E 8-Core, Corsair Water Cooling, Nvidia Geforce GTX-980, Samsung 860 Pro SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 3 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Fractal Design Arc XL Tower, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win7 Pro
antonsvideo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2015, 01:18 AM   #10
Ahender
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Athens, GA
Posts: 162
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by antonsvideo View Post
I would choose 1280x720 for web use, set level to main and 3.1

make sure you set crop to custom and all values to 0

make sure you set constant frame rate and not the default of variable

set the bitrate manually, say 2000 or less (even 1200 looks good) and set 2 pass with turbo first pass

untick the use of chapters

tick web optimized

set audio to stereo mode with 256 bitrate
Anton,

Using your settings and a timeline of 1280 x 720 59.94p, exported using the AVCHD exporter, then processed in HandBrake, is giving me an awesome video once posted to Shutterfly.

Enough of the experimenting.

Alan
Ahender is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
 
Go Back   Grass Valley Forums > Editors > Editing with EDIUS
 

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
108050p viewing from timeline burnandreturn EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories 13 03-18-2014 02:01 PM
Audio problem after exporting and viewing on TV morad.iseed Editing with EDIUS 3 10-04-2011 12:36 AM
Viewing timeline on third monitor Posterity EDIUS: Compatible Hardware and Accessories 11 05-09-2011 12:57 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are Off
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:33 PM.


Copyright 2014 Belden Inc. All rights reserved.