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Old 05-13-2019, 11:00 AM   #31
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I have better things to do than waste my time trying to explain the differences as you have not shown me anything to substantiate your claims. I see little point in this thread continuing as we all have our own preferred workflows.
the link I quoted was to explain what log was...Never said it was for anything else.
HLG is a form of HDR... so what would be better... in general for dynamic range? in general a HLG or HDR video file.

yeah sure Sony 10 bit SLog might be as good but depends on what the HLG or HDR codec file was compared to Sony 10 bit SLog.

yes..everyone has their own work flow... but the original post was all about how you can get HLG information from a log video file.... you cant!
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:46 AM   #32
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You can grade Log to HLG. This is done in a lot of workflows.

I don't think that it should be a debate because it is done.
Some colorist prefer getting log over HLG because they find that HLG requires a lot more work when grading for a specific look. Even if the final is to be delivered in HLG.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:26 PM   #33
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You can grade Log to HLG. This is done in a lot of workflows.

I don't think that it should be a debate because it is done.
Some colorist prefer getting log over HLG because they find that HLG requires a lot more work when grading for a specific look. Even if the final is to be delivered in HLG.
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:35 PM   #34
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You can grade Log to HLG. This is done in a lot of workflows.

I don't think that it should be a debate because it is done.
Some colorist prefer getting log over HLG because they find that HLG requires a lot more work when grading for a specific look. Even if the final is to be delivered in HLG.
I agree that you can grade log to HLG.. its like saying you can edit sd vision easier than hd vision. sd has less pixels.

colour grading HLG can be a little harder to grade.... I rather log... easier to work with
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Old 05-13-2019, 12:56 PM   #35
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the gh5/gh5s were not designed to output data for Prores raw. I was told by panasonic. these cameras were designed long before prores RAW.
its more than likely that the gh6/gh6s will have that option depending on if panasonic has paid for the license to have prores raw because the codec is owned by apple.
also in regards to the gh5s... It needs more processing power as well, because of the dual iso, the camera has an issue with the vfr over 62frames... as it has electronic noise being created in the video, and its very noticeable in vlog l.
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More than likely but not for sure. Panasonic has a license for some of its cameras so not out of the question. Unless the person who told you was from the product management or design group I would not rely on the information. Even then it can change based on competition. Panasonic also likes to stay with the specs so pushing things out over HDMI that were not intended is not something they may want to do. A 12G SDI grip may solve that issue too.

When you have a camera that is essentially a computer lots are possible. Easy to restrict capability to save power and resource for a particular setting.
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I agree that you can grade log to HLG.. its like saying you can edit sd vision easier than hd vision. sd has less pixels.

colour grading HLG can be a little harder to grade.... I rather log... easier to work with
Sorry I don't think that grading LOG to HLG is a fair comparison to sd to HD edit.
It does not make a lot of sense to be honest.
Oh well to each his own.
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Sorry I don't think that grading LOG to HLG is a fair comparison to sd to HD edit.
It does not make a lot of sense to be honest.
Oh well to each his own.
why not Steve?
doesnt HLG have more dynamic range than log?

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why not Steve?
does HLG have more dynamic range than log?

EH look if you are comparing the difference in Sd to HD pixels to Dynamic range en color space/Gamut I am going to leave it at that. :)

HLG is a delivery format for Broadcasting where there is not enough time to grade and LOG is meant for grading .


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Old 05-13-2019, 01:30 PM   #39
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EH look if you are comparing the difference in Sd to HD pixels to Dynamic range en color space/Gamut I am going to leave it at that. :)

HLG is a delivery format for Broadcasting where there is not enough time to grade and LOG is meant for grading .


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U said that it was a little harder to grade HLG compared to grading log.
what I should of said was.. its like in the early days of HD that it was harder to edit HD then it was to edit SD due to computers etc..

anyway..
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You can grade Log to HLG. This is done in a lot of workflows.

I don't think that it should be a debate because it is done.
Some colorist prefer getting log over HLG because they find that HLG requires a lot more work when grading for a specific look. Even if the final is to be delivered in HLG.
It's best to start with a availabe pro camera with the most dynamic range. More stops in general are better. Then it depends on the workflow and I'm glad that my workflow with LOG-footage works. And of course I buy a better camera when I will have the budget for that.

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