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Old 04-29-2019, 01:14 PM   #1
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Default HLG Colorgrading with MB Looks

I have made a tutorial for colorgrading my 8bit v-log footage of my Panasonic FZ2000 with Magic Bullet Looks in Edius 9.31. I don't have an HDR-Monitor, but they are getting more affordable. I have got good results with Looks and even better results with 10bit footage from the web.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EDOSWSTb1c
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Old 04-30-2019, 04:04 PM   #2
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so why cant you use the colour corrector in edius??
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Old 04-30-2019, 09:56 PM   #3
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so why cant you use the colour corrector in edius??
Maybe you can get similar results in color correction with edius effects.

My main reason is, that I do not have a HDR-Monitor. If you make any little changes in the look, then you have to export the clip (h265) for your TV (UHD HDR) and verify the quality.

MB Looks is a very powerful plugin that makes colorgrading easier, because you have presets and many effects that are optimised for log-footage. But you have still to do a lot of tests.

And last but not least there are many tutorials for MB Looks at Red Giant's website.
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Old 05-01-2019, 01:34 AM   #4
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is magic bullet designed for hlg?
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Old 05-01-2019, 02:47 AM   #5
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Are you trying to convert V-log-L to HLG or PQ10 ? There are presets in PCC for source and output for V-Log-L and HLG in EDIUS 8.53. It will be difficult if you do not have a monitor or scopes to set up output.
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is magic bullet designed for hlg?
no, it is not designed for HLG, but if your footage is Rec709 or log you can use it for colorgrading. If you want to grade to HLG it is necessary to shoot in log.

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Are you trying to convert V-log-L to HLG or PQ10 ? There are presets in PCC for source and output for V-Log-L and HLG in EDIUS 8.53. It will be difficult if you do not have a monitor or scopes to set up output.
I use PCC to convert my log footage to HLG and do the white balance in PCC with a mask at white point and use the vectorscope to adjust the color. Then I use MB Looks for colorgrading to get the look that i want.

My footage is only 8bit, so my tests Show that I can only convert to HLG. A conversion to PQ10 will lead to banding. But you have a GH5 and Ninja V, you can convert to PQ10 and get a higher quality then HLG.
Yes, it is difficult to colorgrade without an HDR-Monitor, but it works with waveform and vectorscope in edius 9.31
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