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Old 11-14-2010, 01:28 AM   #1
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Default WMV to DV to ADVC-300 to TV conversion

A question I'm trying to formulate to ask on the various video help forums is how to best convert a WMV file to DV so that it is playable by WinDV or the Enosoft DV Processor to output to the ADVC-300 to show on a TV.

(I realize that the question is off-topic here, but ask in case anyone happens to know the answer. (My primary use of the ADVC-300 is to convert the other way, from analog to digital, but have a need to play a WMV file on a TV screen.)

The only program that I've had any success with so far is Microsoft's Windows Movie Maker. WinDV can play its output file to the ADVC-300 which shows on the TV. The Enosoft DV Processor can play that same file, but it doesn't end up showing on the TV.

WinFF using the "dvntsc" preset "Raw DV for NTSC Fullscreen" resulted in a file that would play in Enosoft DV Processor, and get to the TV, but with no sound.

In more detail, the WMV is:
Video
ID : 2
Format : VC-1
Format profile : MP@ML
Codec ID : WMV3
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint : WMV3
Description of the codec : Windows Media Video 9
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 410 Kbps
Width : 640 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.059

And WMM's converted to DV-AVI is:

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Duration : 1h 42mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced

Code:
--- Video Information ---
Video Codec Type(e.g. "DIV3"):                  dvsd
Video Codec Name(e.g. "DivX 3, Low-Motion"):    DVC/DV Video
Video Codec Status(e.g. "Codec Is Installed"):  Codec(s) are Installed
Duration (hh:mm:ss):                            1:42:15
Frame Count:                                    183851
Frame Width (pixels):                           720
Frame Height (pixels):                          480
Storage Aspect Ratio("SAR")"                    1.500
Pixel Aspect Ratio ("PAR"):                     0.889
Display Aspect Ratio ("DAR"):                   1.333
Fields Per Second:                              59.940
Frames Per Second:                              29.970
Pics Per Second:                                29.970
Video Bitrate (kbps):                           6973
Quality Factor (bits/pixel)/frame:              0.673"
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:32 AM   #2
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Does you computer's graphics card have a video output? It would be better to use that to connect to the TV, rather than trying to convert to DV format. However, Windows Movie Maker can export a WMV movie in DV-AVI format.

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Old 11-15-2010, 01:27 AM   #3
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My video "card" is built into the motherboard, and does not have a video output.

The "WMM" details above are from a Windows Movie Maker conversion.

I'm trying to use those details, along with the details from analog that the ADVC-300 has converted to digital (which play back just fine to the TV) as a guide to use a non-Microsoft program (e.g. ffmpeg) to do the conversion.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:00 AM   #4
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Ok, I should have read your post more closely :)

What are the audio stream properties of the WMV file. Also check the audio stream info in the DV file converted by WinFF.

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Old 11-17-2010, 03:39 AM   #5
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The audio of the WMV is:

Audio
ID : 1
Format : WMA
Format version : Version 2
Codec ID : 161
Codec ID/Info : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec :Windows Media Audio 9.2 - 96 kbps, 44 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
Duration : 1h 30mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 96.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 61.9 MiB (19%)

The only successful conversion I had so far, WMM's DV-AVI, that WinDV can play through the ADVC-300 to the TV has this audio:

Audio
ID : 0-0
Format : PCM
Muxing mode : DV
Muxing mode, more info : Muxed in Video #1
Duration : 1h 42mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 0.00 Byte (0%)

(The Enosoft DV Processor can sort of load the file, but not enough to get it to the ADVC-300.)

WinFF's "dvntsc" preset called "Raw DV for NTSC Fullscreen" sends ffmpeg.exe the commands -target ntsc-dv -aspect 4:3 -f dv results in this audio:

Audio
ID : 0
Format : PCM
Duration : 1h 8mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 754 MiB (5%)

WinDV can't load it, but the Enosoft DV Processor can, and show the video on ADVC-300 to the TV, but no sound.

The WMM conversion has that "too thin" problem where circles look like ovals.
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:29 AM   #6
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In Windows Movie Maker you can set 16:9 aspect ratio in Tools -> Options -> Advanced (select Aspect ratio: 16:9). Now when you save the movie in DV-AVI format it will have 16:9 aspect ratio.

Similarly, in WinFF, make sure the Additional Options are showing (click Options if not), select the Video Settings tab and enter 16:9 in the Aspect Ratio box.

WinFF produces a raw DV file, not a Microsoft DV-AVI file, which is why WinDV (and Windows Media Player) won't play it. You can use Enosoft DV Processor to convert the raw DV file to a Type 1 or Type 2 DV-AVI file which you will then be able to play with WinDV (and Windows Media Player).

I don't know why Enosoft DV Processor won't send the audio through. In my experience I cannot get it to monitor the input audio when I use it to play a raw DV video. The only way I can hear the sound is to first convert the raw DV video file to a Type 2 DV-AVI file. Then when I play the Type 2 DV-AVI file in Enosoft I can hear the audio. But the strange thing is that once the audio is coming through, I can then play the original raw DV file and hear the audio!

This is a lot of effort to go to, to use your ADV300 to see the video on your TV! It's not going to look that great anyway (you are upscaling a 640x360 progressive video to a 720x480 interlaced video).

Ken.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:00 AM   #7
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Thank you for the explanation.

The much bigger TV is in a different room than my computer, and connected by a long cable.

The ADVC-300 is a very handy device.
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