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Old 11-15-2008, 11:26 PM   #1
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Is the Edius software optimized to take advantage of the new instructions set in the Intel Core i7 cpu's ? I'm building one now (testing is schedulled for monday) but tests states that when using vegas video there is a large improvement for rendering (98 % better).
I assume Edius will be using the 4 cores + the 4 hyperthreaded cores to do it's rendering but does it als uses the new instructions ?
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Old 11-16-2008, 12:05 AM   #2
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Funny, but back home they use to say that there are some people that like to run in front of moving train. Do you really think that somebody can optimize software for the hardware that will be out only tomorrow?
Second- Edius can RECOGNISE 4 cores, but if it can propely use it- it's a big question, I saw some independant reviews about Premiere, but never about Edius...
Third. Edius- is an editing, not compositing package, I do not believe that getting the most powerfull machine will make any difference. I have 8 Gig of RAM and 4 core processor, but the same I can get with dual core and 3Gigs of RAM- I did the upgrade only because of Aftereffects...
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Old 11-16-2008, 09:00 PM   #3
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We sell a lot of Q6600 systems. And for editing HDV in canopus HQ codec they are capeable of >7 streams realtime. But (there is alwas a but) when editing XDCam HD in MXF format performance is weak. This would be improved with a faster CPU without raising the cost to much (no dual Xeon system). As an intel assiociate member i know how important they think HD video is, so i can imagine them to provide (videosoft) programmers with the new instruction set included in their next generation CPU's. When Premiere and Vegas are already optimised to take advantage of this new instructionset Edius could also use some "tweaks". And at last every movie has te be outputted and rendered to different formats al our costumers do make a tape (HDV) AND a DVD and as always for them faster = better.
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Old 11-17-2008, 08:45 AM   #4
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We sell a lot of Q6600 systems. And for editing HDV in canopus HQ codec they are capeable of >7 streams realtime. But (there is alwas a but) when editing XDCam HD in MXF format performance is weak. This would be improved with a faster CPU without raising the cost to much (no dual Xeon system). As an intel assiociate member i know how important they think HD video is, so i can imagine them to provide (videosoft) programmers with the new instruction set included in their next generation CPU's. When Premiere and Vegas are already optimised to take advantage of this new instructionset Edius could also use some "tweaks". And at last every movie has te be outputted and rendered to different formats al our costumers do make a tape (HDV) AND a DVD and as always for them faster = better.
First off, working in full raster requires more of the system....not only the processor but the hard drive throughput as well (since you are using HQ).

Edius basically will edit with 2 processors. I know there are different stories of this but when it comes down to it, dual core is it. Sure, you can spend tons on the latest and greatest. Until Edius is written to handle more than 2 cores your speeds will be limited to the efficiency of your 2 cores. The other thing to keep in mind is that with it working with 2 cores it works much better with dual processors using 1 core of each. At least that seems to be reports made by users here.
If you are using AE and other power hogs, you will reap the benefits of a beefy system with multiple cores. This would reason to upgrade... If you want bragging rights for a month, that too would be reason.
If a change were going to be made with in Edius expect that in V6, which is probably at least a year away.
As far as Intel, well they may provide the information, but GV will use it when they 'eventually' get around to it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:30 PM   #5
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Finnaly had the time to measure the speed

Rendersnelheid Edius 5.0.1

20 min HDV 20min DVD 20 min Blu-ray
Core I7-920 07:37 07:15 11:32 19:09
Xeon 5450 Dual Quadcore 14:30 08:05 15:08 29:38
Q9550 Core 2 quad 20:05 09:30 19:12 39:17
E 6600 Core 2 Duo 29:37 30:42 38:25 1:08:02

Improved speed
Xeon 5450 Dual Quadcore 55%
Q9550 Core 2 quad 105%
E 6600 Core 2 Duo 255%
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Old 12-11-2008, 07:30 PM   #6
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That doesn't answer the question whether Edius 5 takes full advantage of the i7's new instructions, but it clearly shows that an i7 processor is a worthwhile investment for those who do lots of editing and encoding. Thanks for the data.
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The Forum made such a mess of your table, but there are four times and only three headings. Did I get this straight?

Rendersnelheid Edius 5.0.1

..................................20 min HDV.....20min DVD.....20 min Blu-ray
Core I7-920....................07:37............07:15..... ........11:32..........19:09
Xeon 5450 Dual Quadcore..14:30............08:05.............15:08 ..........29:38
Q9550 Core 2 quad...........20:05............09:30............. 19:12..........39:17
E 6600 Core 2 Duo............29:37............30:42............. 38:25.......1:08:02

Improved speed
Xeon 5450 Dual Quadcore 55%
Q9550 Core 2 quad 105%
E 6600 Core 2 Duo 255%

Thanks for your testing!
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