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Old 11-12-2017, 09:57 AM   #11
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I am thinking...
I still need BlackMagic Intensity Pro 4k
and a card reader
If you just need output for monitoring then you may wish to consider the BM Mini Monitor 4K, also it may cost less. Peter
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Old 11-12-2017, 12:38 PM   #12
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I am thinking...

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ASUS ROG STRIX X299-E GAMING (Wi-Fi) (Intel X299 Chipset) (Up to 4x PCI-E Devices)
32GB DDR4 3200MHz Corsair Dominator Platinum DHX
1000W Corsair HX1000i (Digitally Controlled Power)
1x SSD M.2 (500GB Digital Storm Performance Series)
1x SSD M.2 (1TB Digital Storm Performance Series)
2x Storage (4TB Western Digital - Enterprise Edition)
1x GeForce GTX 1080 8GB (Performance Edition) (VR Ready)
H20: Stage 2: Digital Storm Vortex 240mm Liquid CPU Cooler (Fully Sealed + No Maintenance)
Digital Storm Thermal Management Control Board & Software

I still need BlackMagic Intensity Pro 4k
and a card reader
I would call them and verify that the AIO cooler can handle the temperatures created with all 10 cores@4.8GHz while exporting a 3840x2160 10bit 60p encode for several hours. (Also verify the over clock as actually being all 10 cores are running at 4.88 and not just one or two cores running at 4.88GHz. )
If they say it will, verify that they will put that in writing. Temps go up considerably from an HD encode to a UHD encode.

The Dominator ram, and the GTX 1080(prefer the 1080ti) are much better choices. As mentioned, the cooler is my concern.

Another company to query is Puget Systems. https://www.pugetsystems.com
I would give them a call and discuss what you want the system to do. That goes for Digital Storm as well as any company you choose.
Puget is more conservative in their builds. They do mostly Adobe systems it is best to talk to them before ordering.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:03 PM   #13
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Jerry is our resident computer expert and he is always giving great information.

Just as a reference, I built up a similar system on Newegg to see the raw component price. The build came up costing $3000 to $4000 depending on video card, mobo and storage choices.

That can give you something to compare to and gauge how much the builder is adding for their services.

My 7900x is running well with a Corsair h110 cooler which is a 240mm radiator and only a pull fan setup. Running well is relative to where you put your overclock. I have 8 cores at 4.3GHz and 2 at 4.6GHz and it is at the top end of the temp range when encoding.

As Jerry pointed out, you need to be very detailed and clear what the builder is telling you about what speeds they will deliver. The 7900x generates a lot of heat.

Also, I would ask yourself where your performance is lacking with your current system and what you want to improve. I went from a 4790k to the 7900x. Some things like encoding, multicam playback and Neat Video just went through the roof. Way better. Other things around windows are not that different but quicker.

You might want to price out a 6 core system just to see what the difference is. Everything in the computer world is degrees of performance. $5,000 seems like a large number but can be worth it if your business really needs the performance. But maybe you can be as effective spending $3,500? Just food for thought.

I am very pleased with my upgrade One good thing is that a great working system that can handle all you throw at it will last a long time and you will be very productive/efficient all throughout that time period. There is opportunity cost for waiting to get a great system. You might choose lower encoding quality settings resulting lowering your final output quality or you might be frustrated in trying to edit creatively if the tasks just take too long. As a small business owner, it is important to maximize time, quality and efficiency as well has keep a nice disposition. The more expensive computer build is a big help in this area.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:05 PM   #14
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All cores constantly at 4,9ghz? You better put the pc in a freezer, the 7900x runs very hot even at moderate overclocking, I"ve seen several overclocking tests where it quickly goes up towards 100deg which can have a effect on reliability as the processor can start to throttle especially when you start to push it so hard during longer renders.

That raises the question why the system needs to be overclocked so much? Is it not more "safer" to do a moderate overclock? It's not that pushing the processor up to 5Ghz is going to make a world of difference expect more powerconsumption, more heat, more expensive coolingsystem.
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:37 PM   #15
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What about the Intel i7 8700k over clocked and has quick sync?
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Old 11-12-2017, 05:44 PM   #16
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Watch the video:

https://www.cybergamer.com/forums/th...hos-upgrading/

Just one of many being shown. I would think a 4.8GHz OC would be easily obtainable with proper components.
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Old 11-12-2017, 06:39 PM   #17
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Can this processor Intel i7 8700k work for 4k editing with out overclocking
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:03 PM   #18
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Processor base clock speed is 3.7GHz with Turbo up to 4.7GHz.
It depends on what you are expecting. Will it edit UHD as you edit HD currently? NO. Chips are still not there yet.
Next June you should see a variation of the 8700k with an AMD graphics core. Whether or not that helps in performance, I don't know.

If you need a computer now, the 8700k will do a decent job. It's not going to be huge gains over the 7700K. Encoding with CPU will be improved because of the extra two cores. The 7700k base clock speed is 4.2Ghz.
Read about how they achieve the 4.7GHz clock speed with the 8700k in turbo mode. That speed is on one core only. That's why I recommended overclocking.
I've looked at it and my reaction is pretty much, meh. It doesn't cry out to make me want to build one.

It comes down to what you need and can afford.
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Old 11-12-2017, 07:31 PM   #19
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I bought the ASUS ROG STRIX Z370-E GAMING, Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240 All-in-One Liquid CPU Cooler w/ Dual Chamber Pump and the Intel i7 8700k this week.
I see the processor does 4.3 GHZ with all 6 cores in turbo mode.
I wonder if it makes sense to upgrade from my Intel i7 6700k processor for 4k editing no multi cam work ?

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Old 11-12-2017, 07:48 PM   #20
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You will see some differences. It will come down to whether or not you see enough gains over your 6700k for the price.
I personally won't use Turbo mode. Never cared for it.

The board should have a 4.5-4.7Ghz overclock setting built into the bios. All you have to do is make sure you have good cooling with the AIO and the ramp settings on the fans are set.

Good luck.
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Both systems on Gigabit network
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