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Old 04-27-2013, 02:10 AM   #1
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Default 6.54 bug on AVCHD + negative speed

User tellsit in the german forum,
and I can it reproduce and some other users ditto.

Edius 6.54 german + Storm 3G
windows_7 + SP1 german
Project 1920x1080 50i
source on timeline AVCHD 50i

set the clip to speed -50%
play it on timeline
Plays not correct .... in constant intervall flasch one different false frame, in to the playback
on Player windos and Storm 3G Monitor

in constant intervall = maybe one GoP ??

at the moment from the one different false frame the
view from date time stamp from the source recording on player windows goes to " -- -- -- ---"
like the following picture:



please, can anyone it confirm on english OS ??

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Old 04-27-2013, 02:42 AM   #2
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added ... I have it tested

it is not a "small issue" from a not perfect preview on the monitors

disadvantageous ...the with constant intervall flasch to one different false frame
is behind export => ditto in the exported file available...
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Old 04-27-2013, 08:38 AM   #3
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I have also been experiencing some different issues with AVCHD files in 6.54, which, support in the UK have now referred to Japan. I have sent them a link to this thread as it might help, I am using Windows 8 and had wondered if this is a factor.. However it appears that you are using Windows 7!

To solve my problem for the time being I have gone back to using 6.53
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Old 04-27-2013, 01:36 PM   #4
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Is the clip 50i or 25i, do you get it with a 50P clip.
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Old 04-27-2013, 02:05 PM   #5
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Is the clip 50i or 25i, do you get it with a 50P clip.
Just tested both 50i and 50p 1920x1080 clips from a Panasonic SD909 imported in both 50i and 50p 1920x1080 projects and just reversed the speed (-100%). Any combination of clip rate and project rate shows the described flash/strobo effect.
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source is native AVCHD_1 from a old SR11

called in the past years 50i ........ like the current (imho not adapted) Projetsettings in Edius 6.54

called 25i in the new EBU Norm ... like the adapted Properties windows in Edius 6.54

I have for test it, exported with burned in >date/time stamp<
so I can see exact the intervall between the flashed frames per the greyed out date/time stamp

set in/out, and the duration between two flashed frames is exact 1sec
and coming up every next full 1 sec

user here goes back to 6.53 ....and wait for a fixed version or a hotfix .......
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Change your timecode from Day Date to just Timecode, does it work then?
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Change your timecode from Day Date to just Timecode, does it work then?
Jerry, it's not about a flickering timecode display! it looks like fields get mixed up and some kind of strobe effect, too.

Can you reproduce it with 60i and 60p clips?
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I only get a green flash with 3d material in 2d mode playing out to 50i on my monitor.
The day date timecode becomes place holders. If you go back to normal timecode, does it work. That is all I am asking.

Also, export that same clip(avchd) to HQ and then redo the -50%. Do they look the same?
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set the clip to speed -50%
play it on timeline
Plays not correct .... in constant intervall flasch one different false frame, in to the playback
there coming real false video-frames in the real playback AND the exportes files

nothing to do wit any settings like timecode or date/time stamp

but the real false one video-frames (jumping hand or feet to a uncorrect position)
is synchron with the greyed out date/time stamp

greyed out date/time stamp is only a helpful resource for me. to find the exact position from the false flashed video-frames
and the intervall between two false flashed video-frames

flashing one false frame each second .....are available on the complete clip length
flashing one false frame each second .....are available ditto with setting to timecode
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