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Old 10-03-2011, 02:08 PM   #1
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Default Vistitle 1.6.1: 'italic' markup for single words will not be recognized in SRT script

Hi Jack,

I have processed a subtitle script (SRT) in VisTitle!
Sadly the 'italic' markups/tags for single words inside the text lines will always be processed as normal text & also spotted!
A drawed spotting looks like this:

"sample line with an <i>italic</i> word"

This represents the script line 1:1 without processing the italic tags!

Actually a single word can't be set to italic style manually.
Can this be changed in future release?

It's urgently needed to spot the protagonists thoughts/quotes/dialogs different!

Thank you!
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GV hardware: 3G Storm
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:11 PM   #2
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Hi Jack,

I have processed a subtitle script (SRT) in VisTitle!
Sadly the 'italic' markups/tags for single words inside the text lines will always be processed as normal text & also spotted!
A drawed spotting looks like this:

"sample line with an <i>italic</i> word"

This represents the script line 1:1 without processing the italic tags!

Actually a single word can't be set to italic style manually.
Can this be changed in future release?

It's urgently needed to spot the protagonists thoughts/quotes/dialogs different!

Thank you!
Yes, VisTitle only import SRT files as a text files, it ignore SRT all tags.

If you want to set some word to Italic or Bold, you have to select this line in SubTitle Editor, and then in right Edit View, double click the text object, enter into the editing mode, select that word, set its font propeties, then, apply this to select line only. Please try this to work around this issues.
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Old 10-07-2011, 04:35 PM   #3
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Will this be changed in near future?
It's because I got scripts with around 900 - 1200 spottings & I don't have the time to search vor non processed tags inside & change this later manually!

Btw, It would be great if VisTitle could process also EBU STL files.
It's a binary format with biunique text encoding informations which comes from subtitling facilities.

Thank you for replying
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Will this be changed in near future?
It's because I got scripts with around 900 - 1200 spottings & I don't have the time to search vor non processed tags inside & change this later manually!

Btw, It would be great if VisTitle could process also EBU STL files.
It's a binary format with biunique text encoding informations which comes from subtitling facilities.

Thank you for replying
1) About SRT tags (such as i, b, etc.), we will think about how to support it in VisTitle, and not sure it is ok.
2) EBU STL files, we had got this file format, it is some complicated, let us think about it carefully, if we only support its text, ignore its some tags (if it has), do you think it is enough or not?

Thanks for your suggestions. Thanks for your help.
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Old 10-09-2011, 07:15 PM   #5
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1) About SRT tags (such as i, b, etc.), we will think about how to support it in VisTitle, and not sure it is ok.
Yeah, that would be great!
Otherwise I would have to process it by using AVIsynth again!

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2) EBU STL files, we had got this file format, it is some complicated, let us think about it carefully, if we only support its text, ignore its some tags (if it has), do you think it is enough or not?
I know, EBU STL is one of the most extensive formats for professional subtitling. The ability to read EBU STL files would be great. We don't really need all of the tags, flags & informations for the usage in VisTitle environment!
The most important tags are text format & style related! Maybe text alignment & position informations can be utilized?
http://tech.ebu.ch/docs/tech/tech3264.pdf

another interesting format, XML based:
http://www.w3.org/TR/2009/WD-ttaf1-dfxp-20090602/

Both formats are mentioned in BBC guidelines!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/guidelines/futu...btitling.shtml

Thank you for beeing always open minded!
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Thank you very much for these documents and information.

We will think about how to implement these features in future VisTitle version.
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Hi Jack,

just to show you how it actually looks when using SRT scripts with italic markups, see the attached screenshot!
The script is full of such markups! Quotes & proper nouns are marked italic!

This time Vistitle can't help me, because it's too much work to correct that manually!
Will use the good old AVISynth method! ;)

Hopefully you find a way to process these tags in future!

Thank you
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ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, 12 GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT
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GV software: EDIUS 7.42, VisTitle v2.5,
GV hardware: 3G Storm
software SONY DoStudio Indie + EX 4.0.11
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