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Old 12-02-2018, 05:31 AM   #1
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Hello Edius Forum.

No, this is not another post asking about info for building a system for Edius.

Rather, this is just a few suggestions before anyone posts another thread that is already answered elsewhere on the forum.

For a basic overview of system requirements, go to the Grass Valley main website and have a look at what they've got to say. After all, they make Edius.

Try using the Edius Forum search function and use specific searches.

Try looking at some of the signatures by the more established forum users. Some give very detailed system specifications for their Edius setups.

If none of the above suggestions help, maybe because your request is very specific, then be very clear in what you are asking for.

Let people know the type of codecs you are using, the resolutions, the frame rates etc.

Are you using Edius for its primary function as an editor, or are you using it more like a finishing tool, grading etc.?

How many tracks of video are you likely to be using?

Do you plan on doing much audio?

Are you ingesting from tape or external video connections or using files?

What is the total file size of your media for a project likely to be?

Are you using Edius in a wider production workflow on the same machine? For instance, another NLE, a grading tool, a separate encode, a DAW etc. And if so, just remember that this is a Grass Valley Edius forum and not one for another NLE or manufacturer.

And probably the most important question. What is your budget?

With a bit of searching on your part and a very clear indication of specific requirements, you'll get better help and more quickly.

Try looking through the lounge. In my experience this is the best part of the forum. While it's a bit more informal and covers topics that are a bit wider than those on the main forum. It's a place where a lot of valuable information is exchanged between a lot of experienced Edius and forum users.

Also. Repeat posting of the same question will likely get you less assistance.

Cheers,
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Old 12-02-2018, 10:36 AM   #2
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Excellent post Dave, this should be a pinned post to make it clear to new users what info to provide so that it will be easier to recommend a system based on real life experience of many users here that have been using Edius for years.

I think we also could start adding videos showcasing Edius possibilities on specific systems like the one you just posted yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPB4DroAzRc
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Old 12-02-2018, 11:30 AM   #3
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Excellent post Dave, this should be a pinned post to make it clear to new users what info to provide so that it will be easier to recommend a system based on real life experience of many users here that have been using Edius for years.

I think we also could start adding videos showcasing Edius possibilities on specific systems like the one you just posted yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPB4DroAzRc
Hi Noa.

Yes, I agree. Although there are certain details on how to approach the forum, unfortunately a lot of people in their eagerness to get answers, don't take the time to familiarise themselves with the forum and information that's already here.

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Old 12-02-2018, 04:27 PM   #4
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I agree with Noa an excellent post Dave.
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I agree with Noa an excellent post Dave.
Thank you Ron.
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It would be nice for new users to follow these basic instructions. I don't have much hope for that due to the fact that most users don't even post their system specs in their signatures. This one step saves a lot of time when trying to answer a question.

Another thing most users don't do is use the forum search feature. I can see it for a new user, but for a user with over 100 posts it should be one of the first things that is used. Googling the item in general and in You Tube would be second.

I know you guys have been talking about users building their own machines. I still prefer to recommend an integrator. A good integrator will know not only Edius, but other NLE's as well.

Yes, it will cost a bit more but you will have a warranty. This is especially important for the first time editing system builder. On that note, if you insist on building your own editing system, try building a surfing/gaming machine first and learn all of the pitfalls from that before moving on to something as complicated as an editing machine.

Building an editing system has become easier over the years. However, it's still not just about ordering parts and slapping them into a case. I've spent months studying parts, drivers, and manuals prior to ordering the first item.
This is a never ending process for those who build rock solid systems.

If you decide to build your own editing system, try to have a seasoned builder helping you.
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If you decide to build your own editing system, try to have a seasoned builder helping you.
This would be the only advice necessary if a sticky were to be made for such things.

I've personally built many hundreds of bespoke computers specifically for NLE use. When my business used to do this, many years ago and as Jerry has just said, although it was more problematic 20+ years ago and despite the fact that it has become easier over the years. It still isn't quite as easy as many would think, even if you don't need to know what an IRQ or DMA are, as a for instance.

People like David Clarke didn't just magic themselves into exsistence, I knew of David back before I'd ever heard of Edius, let alone this forum. There's good reason why David and Jerry know what they are talking about and in my opinion are the two most knowledgable members of this forum with regard system integration and Edius.

If a sticky were to be made I'd suggest asking David and Jerry to make one up. Between the pair of them, their expertise and many combined years of VERY practical experience. There's nothing that they wouldn't know.

That's not to say that others aren't experienced, far from it, there are a good few more experienced users here, we are lucky in that respect. It's just that I've had first hand experience with David, buying things off him over the years and have taken a lot of excellent advice off him and Jerry.
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Old 12-02-2018, 09:07 PM   #8
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I agree with the idea of a good sticky, but it would have to be a bit generalized since hardware changes several times a year.

Like yourself Dave, I spent 14 years as a system integrator, but doing so for other NLE's. I only came to Edius with the v7 release, since it opened up the 3rd party I/O capabilities, and I wanted my I/O to be useable in more than Edius.

It has been over 10 years since I worked as a full time Integrator, but I wouldn't really say that it has gotten easier. When I used to do it, most of the manufacturers had "cookbooks" with approved hardware lists and built instructions in regards to what slot to put what card in. Now with the open I/O model and the rapidly changing I/O cards, motherboards and CPUs, including the shakeup that seems to be starting with the introduction of the new AMD chips, and lack of the "cookbooks", the current build path looks to be somewhat challenging again, particularly for the unseasoned builder.

That said, I still agree with Jerry, in that finding an integrator and by far the best option, but some simple forum searches and checking the GV website for system requirements can answer an awful lot of questions for people. In that regard, including links to those specification pages in the sticky could go a long way.
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