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Old 02-11-2009, 04:04 PM   #11
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Do you use under and over crank feature in your video? HPX172 (and HVX202) class of cameras using P2 cards can do extremely good slowmo and fastmo using that technique - VERY MUCH better than EDIUS / AE / Premiere Pro can ever do.

That will be one advantage of the P2 card over SDHC - which is not fast enough to cope with data rates of over cranking.

Of course, the cost of P2 cards are skyhigh - no choice. But, it is "mil-spec" - no joke. I have been using my 16GB P2 cards in places as extreme as 4,000m in the Nepal Himalaya (-25 deg C) to Western Australia (55 deg C) - no problems.

If you don't shoot features - meaning 12 hour weddings, or stuff like that, P2 cards are okay. And the camera supports continuous recording with 2 P2 cards in place. Something you can't do with SDHC based cameras today.
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Old 02-11-2009, 04:21 PM   #12
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Has anyone here used any of the new Solid State Drive's for editing?

The largest that I found was 64GB. Relatively expensive compared to normal HD's but maybe they would help the workflow editing in Edius 5 AVCHD files.
Just a question. They can be used in a raid I read.

I was thinking if one coupled the SSD's with the intel core i7 and DDR3 ram with the right Graphics card it might help to edit native AVCHD? any thoughts?

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Old 02-11-2009, 04:25 PM   #13
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I think the fastest SSD so far is the one by Intel. But, all SSD today - has a limited number of write cycles - they wear away after you exceed that limit. Wait for the new Ferromagnetic memories ....
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Because we use our equipment in a not very friendly enviorment (dust and bouncing)I like the idea of solid state. Is there a way to take one of these larger capacity 256 GB ssd's and put it in some housing and connect to the camera directly and write to it while videoing? That would solve several issues.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:20 PM   #15
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What kind of camera interface do you desire then? SDI? Or just capture component? HPX172 has SDI, but HMC152 has HDMI. I haven't heard of portable capture equipment for HDMI so far .... but SDI - yes. Costs only US$6,000 !!! Might as well buy a HPX172 for that money.

You see, it is not the SSD - but, what kind of interface - and that is expensive. The h/w needed to acquire the signal and record it into some kind of codec that is off the camera - that's not cheap.

Might as well just buy the HPX172 and P2 cards and be done with.
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:53 PM   #16
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Thanks for the feedback. Sounds like HPX 172 it is. P2 cards and all.

I am no professional video person so simple and easy is good!
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Old 02-11-2009, 10:52 PM   #17
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An MxR Express Card reader ($70 Australian, $55 US) and Sandisk Ultra 2 SDHC 16 GB card ($69 Australian) will work perfectly in a Sony PMW EX1 or EX3. Using this card and adapter will give you 58 minutes recording in full HD (1920x1080i). If you use the Ultra 2 32, GB card recording time is double. In the EX1 (EX3) you also have 2 slots, so cheap, high quality recording is readily available. As a comparison a 16 GB SxS card would cost around 10 times as much!
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However, the Sony EX1 or EX3 camera costs nearly SIN$10K versus SIN$6K for HPX172. So - you have to give or take somewhere.
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AVCHD can't even work right on my system (check my specs).

I am building a second and third (server) stations with the new i7 2.66Ghz Quad Core CPU's....I'll report of the performance on these affordable CPU's.
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Well, I did mentioned in some other threads you require an equivalent of 6Ghz to 7Ghz processor to do AVCHD in realtime on EDIUS timeline. And multi-cores don't cut it here - each core must be running at 6Ghz at least to decompress AVCHD and play it back normally.

There aren't any processor in the world today. Unless Intel puts in a specialised SSE instruction simply to decode AVCHD streams - you have to transcode it to Canopus HQ or Cineform's codec to edit in realtime.
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