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Old 09-13-2019, 04:07 PM   #11
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Will have to really on someone else Jerry as it is only for EDIUS 9.
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Old 09-14-2019, 03:47 PM   #12
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Hi.

Iíll be testing this soon and do a short video. I can also try it on an older iGPU that doesnít do h.264 and see if it gets anywhere with the plug.

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Old 09-14-2019, 10:24 PM   #13
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I have installed EDIUS 9WG on my second 4790K PC and then installed this plugin. I put a file from my GH5 HLG 30P h265 10bit on the timeline and cut a piece out of the middle. Located the plugin and ran it on the clip then tried to export to h265 ( the only reason to use the plugin I think) and of course EDIUS will not do this because the 4790K does not have a h265 encoder. So I do think this plugin is really restricted to EDIUS 9 on a modern Intel PC with h265 hardware encoder. Exporting to h264/AVC both the shorted clip after running the plugin and just me shortening to the same length exported in the same time as expected.

So unless I am missing something it will be of no use to PC's without an Intel h265 encoder because EDIUS will not export.

So I still think if all someone needs to do is cut a piece out of a h265 video and put titles on etc TMPGenc Smart Renderer is a better choice, more capable and at the same price. Will also use all available GPU's' too.
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Old 09-15-2019, 12:46 AM   #14
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The purpose of the plugin is to provide the H.265 encoder to systems without H.265 capabilites. It's similar to the TMPGE AVC plugin. Edius doesn't have X264 export capabilities it is provided by TMPGE. Also, Edius doesn't have dual pass, which TMPGE also provides.

In this case, Nabet is providing the H.265 capabilities. This is a SOFTWARE H.265 encoder and it uses the cores to create the file. If you have above 6 cores and they are fast, the encode should work much better than my 4790k that only has 4 Cores 8 Threads.

You are obviously doing something wrong. Thinking that Edius has to have an H.265 option in it in order for Nablet to work, is absolutely wrong. With that thinking, why would you need something else to create an H.265 file.

Here is a video using a 10bit 4:2:2 29.97p GH5 file on my 4790k. Which you will agree does not have an H.265 encoder built in.
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Old 09-15-2019, 01:40 AM   #15
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I stand corrected and misunderstood the application. My understanding was it was intended to be a smart encoder for h265 so that pieces cut from a h265 clip would not re encode everything. If you really want to encode a h264 file to h265 then TMPGenc is definitely faster no need to be in EDIUS at all. If you do not have an Intel CPU but a fast CPU and GPU it may well be faster to export a HQX file and encode in TMPGenc. I understand your point but wonder why anyone would use it. I guess I need to see a use case. Users are likely either to have an Intel based system or a fast GPU. Yes they could have an old system like the 4790 that we both have or earlier that for really short clips may be useful. If they are really doing any h265 work they really need to upgrade and the problem goes away. And for those of us without Intel then I still feel TMPGenc is a much better solution.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:31 AM   #16
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Remember, this is a public beta. You need to direct your issues, comments, and requests to Nablet and let them hash out where they go from here.

I would still test it on the Threadripper to see what you get.

I never expected a software H.265 encoder to be anything other than slow on my 4790k system.
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:59 AM   #17
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Understood. When my current project is done I will load EDIUS 9 on the Threadripper system. For comparison I made a few clips to test V-Log, HLG, Standard and Like709. All about 14 sec and have just done test encodes using MW7 and Resolve Studio on the Threadripper. The HLG 30P UHD 10bit h265 clip took 9 secs to re-encode from Resolve, MW7 took 43 secs to do the same thing so must have decoded then re-encoded. The Standard Picture Profile ( so a h264 encode ) took 6 sec to encode to h265 from Resolve and 11 sec from MW7, 1 min with x265 SW encode. The same clip on my 4790K system using the plugin took 2 mins. So yes I figured out how to make it work !!

I should have the current project done by end of next week so will upgrade the main editor to EDIUS 9 and be interesting to see what the times are then. But you can see the impact NVIDIA 1080Ti has on the encodes. Not really much control of parameters in Resolve but very fast and lots of parameters in MW7 but slower.

So I just hope the EDIUS 10 will include use of AMD and NVIDIA GPU's for everything !!
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:31 AM   #18
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At this point, it only exports to BT 709.
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Old 09-16-2019, 11:54 PM   #19
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Looks like Ron isn't the only one to have misunderstood the plugin. I also thought it was a smart render for H.265 I also didn't think it was a software H.265 encoder.

My understanding was that it required E9 with an Edius compatible Intel H.265 QSV iGPU so it could re-encode/render/format the GOP at the join point of any cuts for the smart function and also to render any sections of an output that aren't smart compatible, FX, titles etc.

I'm still yet to try it out but will try both.

If it doesn't smart render I think its use would be very limited. In which case, feeding a HQX to something else that can do NVENC would be the way to go for many users and the only way if H.265 is the target for those without E9 and a compatible H.265 Intel QSV iGPU.

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It seems that Nablet has been founded by one of the Mainconcept founder!
I would wait for proper announcements regarding the planned feature set.

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