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Old 11-21-2017, 08:34 PM   #1
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Default Edius 9WG uses multicores better

I have not seen this discussed here but Edius 9 WG has a big performance gain compared to 8 when you are in a 4K project and render out to a 4K file. Not sure if this applies to all CPU's but on a threadripper 1950x I had 30 min worth of mixed footage from 100-150mbs 4K 25p codecs from different panasonic camera's.

In Edius 8 this took 1 hour and 20 minutes to render out. The reason for this was that edius 8 only used 25% of all available cores, edius 9 however renders the same file out in 25 minutes because now edius used 80% of all cores.

I was not planning to get edius 9 as it's new functions at this moment where not of much use to me but as soon as I found out how much faster it could render out a 4K file I ordered it immediately :) I will be rendering out quite a lot of 4K files in the future so this was a important feature.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:03 PM   #2
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Not sure if I am allowed to post this here so mods feel free to remove it but guess what, the avc plugin from tmpgenc for edius 8 also works in edius 9, just copy all the files tmp places in the edius 8 plugin folder into the edius 9 plugin folder and in my case it works, I get 100% cpu utilization on a 16 core 1950x with the x264 codec with either HD and 4K render. Rendering the 30 min 4K project out that I described in my first post as cbr 100mbs 4K 25p file in "normal" performance and x264 codec takes around 40 min with CPU temp of 50deg. I"m not sure yet about the quality of the file it outputs so I have to do some pixelpeeping.

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Old 11-21-2017, 11:39 PM   #3
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I have not seen this discussed here but Edius 9 WG has a big performance gain compared to 8 when you are in a 4K project and render out to a 4K file. Not sure if this applies to all CPU's but on a threadripper 1950x I had 30 min worth of mixed footage from 100-150mbs 4K 25p codecs from different panasonic camera's.

In Edius 8 this took 1 hour and 20 minutes to render out. The reason for this was that edius 8 only used 25% of all available cores, edius 9 however renders the same file out in 25 minutes because now edius used 80% of all cores.

I was not planning to get edius 9 as it's new functions at this moment where not of much use to me but as soon as I found out how much faster it could render out a 4K file I ordered it immediately :) I will be rendering out quite a lot of 4K files in the future so this was a important feature.
I wonder if Pro 9 does the same or only WG? as of now I'm good with Pro 8 but I'll keep your comment in mind... thanks for the info
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Old 11-22-2017, 12:27 AM   #4
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Is this related to new h264 encoder or are you seeing overall better multicore usage?
HD output looked like about the same cpu usage but have not compared yet but 4K output there was a lot of difference with the 1950x, also hqxavi output was about 20% faster between 8 and 9. Not sure why there is such a difference.
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:10 PM   #5
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Noa what graphics card are you using in your threadripper?
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:15 PM   #6
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a 6gb gtx 1060, I"ll add all my systemspecs in my signature.
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:25 PM   #7
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How many layers of 10bit 4:2:2 50/60p footage will it edit in Full res? That's the true test for me.
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:26 PM   #8
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In a HD or 4K project?
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Old 11-22-2017, 05:28 PM   #9
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Both HD and 4K. I'm more interested in 4K 60p 10bit 4:2:2 playback performance.
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Old 11-22-2017, 06:43 PM   #10
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I just realize my camera doesn't do 4K 50p 10bit 4:2:2, "only" 4K 25p 10bit 4:2:2 so that will have to do, will test when I can.

Personally I never use 10bit codecs but do shoot 4K 8 bit on all my camera's, either 25p or 50p and those codecs my current system handles fine in a multicam setting. When I used edius 8 I felt I wasted all that money on a machine that couldn't handle a fast 4K output which is crucial for my workflow and while I was searching the internet for solutions I came across a lot of premiere users that got the 1950x complaining they got even worse performance then their old machine, reason was that premiere didn't use all those cores efficiently at all.

But then I came across this guys channel: https://youtu.be/M7WaXHB5FoU where he tested the 1950x against intel processors and he found out that edius 9 did use all 1950x cores a lot more efficient in 4K output and that's when I decided to get edius 9.

When it comes to handling 10 bit codecs on a multicam setting I don't expect that good performance because the big difference in corespeed compared to intel processors, I have overclocked mine to 3750mhz which was a 10% overclock but a processor like a the i9 7900x can go much higher then that which should result in a better time playback.
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