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Old 11-22-2017, 08:16 PM   #11
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Ok, here are the results from the Belgian jury :) I added "bassman's" testresults as well from his i9 7900x and I used the same files (4K 25p 4:2:2 10bit) and used the same export methods so it's a good comparison. This test was done here a while back from gh5 files that I provided. I did the test in both edius 8 and 9.
If bassman reads this and sees I added wrong info from his test then he can correct me.

Multicam playback:

7900x: 1080p 10bit 4:2:2 project - "Full preview quality" 3 layers with a 4/5 buffer.
1950x: 1080p 10bit 4:2:2 project- "Full preview quality" 2 layers with a 4/5 buffer.

7900x: 4K 10bit 4:2:2 project - "Full preview quality" 3 layers with a 4/5 buffer.
1950x: 4K 10bit 4:2:2 project - "Full preview quality" 2 layers with a 4/5 buffer.

Encoding of a 1 minute long film:

From the HD project to a 25mbs HD file using edius own exporter in "normal" quality

7900x: 41 seconds
1950x: 27 seconds in edius 9 (100% cpu usage)
1950x: 49 seconds in edius 8 (50% cpu usage)

From the 4K project to a 100mbs 4K file using edius own exporter in "normal" quality

7900x: 123 seconds (between 17% and 59% cpu usage)
1950x: 52 seconds in edius 9 (80% cpu usage)
1950x: 154 seconds in edius 8 (25% cpu usage)

From the 4K project to a 100mbs 4K file using the tmp avc plugin in "high speed" mode

7900x: 67 seconds
1950x: 86 seconds in edius 9 (50% cpu usage)
1950x: 71 seconds in edius 8 (55% cpu usage)

The tmp avc plugin is not officially supported in edius 9 but it works, the results however show it is not optimised for edius 9 which is to be expected, if I use "normal" quality I get 100% cpu usage and a 120 sec encode time.

This test also shows that for good multicam playback with taxing codecs that high core speed matters more then processorcount.

Also interesting is that at 100% load the 16cores don't go above 55deg celcius thx to the excellent cooling from enermax, it is one of the first watercoolers that is build for the 1950x that covers the entire processor.

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Old 11-22-2017, 11:37 PM   #12
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Noa, happy to see you are getting nice performance with your new system. I still have your files so if I ever upgrade to v9 I will re-run the tests. I am too busy right now to try the trial version. If it can offer improved playback performance it might be worth it.

Jerry, have you done much testing with v9? Are you seeing anything like Noa is seeing? Good to see optimizations.
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Old 11-22-2017, 11:52 PM   #13
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I wouldn't expect temps above that with basically no overclock. Get it to 4.0/4.1GHz and watch them climb.
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:10 AM   #14
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It's a 10% overclock which is enough for my needs, the overclock was a simple setting in the bios where you could choose between 3 settings in the "easy set up" menu, as I have no idea how to manually overclock this has to do, also the memory is running at 3200mhz which was also a simple setting in the bios, this also gave the system a 5-10% boost based on a cinebench r15 test where I got a 3225 score.

There was also a 4ghz preset in the bios but that made my pc unstable. Powerusage on the 1950x also goes through the roof once you push it further and I like to save on my electrical bill, especially considering what I paid for this pc :)

Compared to the 7900x the 1950x runs a lot cooler, the video I linked to in this thread the 1950x and 7900x where tested side by side and the 7900 quickly ran up to 90 to 100deg also with a minor overclock so in that comparison the amd is doing quite well.

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Old 11-23-2017, 12:14 AM   #15
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If it can offer improved playback performance it might be worth it.
Yes, that was the only reason why it got 9 now, the differences in performance was too large to ignore.
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Old 11-23-2017, 12:50 AM   #16
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I wouldn't expect temps above that with basically no overclock. Get it to 4.0/4.1GHz and watch them climb.
Actually, it doesn't climb at those settings, I just came across a overclockers website that had some bios overclockingssettings displayed so for fun I dialed them into the bios for a 4ghz overclock and ran the test once more during the 100mbs 4K encode with 80% core usage and it didn't go over 50deg, stayed at a 45deg average, pretty "cool" huh :)

I got a 3462 on cinebench and was able to shave another 8 seconds of the 4K export but going to put it back to the 10% overclock and just leave it there even if these settings I found on that overclocksite seem to be stable.
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Old 11-23-2017, 01:55 AM   #17
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If you're able to get 4.0GHz with a 4k export at max quality settings through the TMPGE plugin to be 50c, that is an excellent overclock and the best temperatures I've seen on a sustained export.

What is the radio button saying 4 cores are disabled? The overclock looks like a max setting and not fixed. Is that the case? It looks like an Intel turbo setting.
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Old 11-23-2017, 09:02 AM   #18
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I have no idea what that means, I know my way around windows but when it comes to overclocking not that much.
I reran the test with a hd and 4k export but used cpuid hardware monitor, this with using edius own exporter. I have included the screengrabs, lots of stuff in there I don't get, can you make something out if it?
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:05 AM   #19
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The temps are quite low at 4.0GHz...even lower than full on water cooling numbers I've seen. We're the temps that low during the stress test?
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Old 11-23-2017, 11:47 AM   #20
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I took that screen grab while edius was encoding and I saw that the temps where between 40 and 50deg during that encode, maybe that's because of that cooler? It's one of the first watercoolers they made I thought that covers the entire cpu.
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