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Old 03-15-2012, 12:37 PM   #1
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Hi. My name is Dali. I'm sound engineer but occasionally I have to do some work with video also. I would very much like to get few straight answers regarding things that are unclear to me, being an audio guy. Keep in mind video is not my primary filed. But when I decide for a software than I stick with it. Edius seems best so far.

I was working with Premiere, Magix Video Pro, FinalCut, Avid Liquid and I must say Edius is best by far. When we tried to export 40hours of WMV file every software above crashed, or couldn't do it except for Edius which did it fast.

I do most of my work on the road. I must use laptop. Currently I have 18,4" Acer Aspire 8920g which is amazing and serves me few year without a single issue. Now I'll buy his new brother Acer Aspire 8951g. Specifications:

http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/LX.RJ207.011

Now for the questions.

1. How far will this laptop get me concerning video edit with Edius?
It has 2 disk slots. I might use 1 SSD for system and other 1Tb for video. + USB/FS/eSATA for external storage.

Current laptop Acer aspire 8920g (Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T9300/T9500, 4gb ram, 7200rpm drive, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9650M GS) works great but it chokes with video plugins. using HDV 1440x1080 50i caputure.

2. Edius can use Adobe AFX plugins prior to CS5. How's with this? Are there many compatibility issues? Will support continue for CS5. In general experiences with adobe plugins.

3. Premiere uses CUDO cores from Nvidia.
In theory I see great potential in use of video card power. How's that in practice? How is multi cores CPU power comaparing to GFX power in practice. What helps to work with plugins to keep realtime play, instead of rendering clips for preview?

4. What's best format for capturing. MPEG or AVI. Any info on that would be great.

Thank you very much for clearing things up for me.

Br,
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Old 03-16-2012, 07:53 AM   #2
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1. How far will this laptop get me concerning video edit with Edius?
It has 2 disk slots. I might use 1 SSD for system and other 1Tb for video. + USB/FS/eSATA for external storage.

Current laptop Acer aspire 8920g (Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T9300/T9500, 4gb ram, 7200rpm drive, NVIDIA® GeForce® 9650M GS) works great but it chokes with video plugins. using HDV 1440x1080 50i caputure.

2. Edius can use Adobe AFX plugins prior to CS5. How's with this? Are there many compatibility issues? Will support continue for CS5. In general experiences with adobe plugins.

3. Premiere uses CUDO cores from Nvidia.
In theory I see great potential in use of video card power. How's that in practice? How is multi cores CPU power comaparing to GFX power in practice. What helps to work with plugins to keep realtime play, instead of rendering clips for preview?

4. What's best format for capturing. MPEG or AVI. Any info on that would be great.

Thank you very much for clearing things up for me.

Br,
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I use a HP laptop for field work very similar to the one you are using at present (See my signature) and it works well using HDV and AVCHD footage
Not as fast as my desktop but quite adequate

As to your question 1, it should handle HD quite well
I replaced my boot drive with a Hybrid drive but a SSD should be even better
Most Video Plug ins cause Edius to choke, need to render, even on my Desktop so don't worry about it unless you use a lot but having come from Premier you will know even with its own filters it is RENDER, RENDER, RENDER

Question 2 CS5 is 64 bit, Edius is still 32 bit, no one knows for how long, so that is the reason for CS5 not working in Edius

Question 3 Edius is already Real Time but has a set of complicated GPU transitions that use the Video card BUT does not require an expensive CUDA card, make sure the Video card has a min of 512mb Preferably 1G and no problems
NOTE NewBlue will soon have all their VIDEO Plugins available for Edius with GPU rendering and that should aleviate the problem with Question 1

Question 4 Capture format??? Your choice, AVI works faster as there is less load on the CPU, BUT BIG files, I use this almost exclusively as it seems to have less problems not that I have seen any lately on my desktop or laptop using either HDV or AVCHD
AVI allows more tracks stacking and certainly works well in multicam with files on separate disks

For external disks, over the counter USB2 disks are all too slow
USB3 perfect, as good as eSATA
USB3 express cards are availabe if your laptop does not have one

Hope that helps
Regards Barry
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Thank you very much Bluetongue. That cleared things up for me.

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What about Edius NLE hardware.

Is is I/O or it has CPU for plugins and transitions?

Thank you

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What about Edius NLE hardware.

Is is I/O or it has CPU for plugins and transitions?
The GV NLE Cards have no acceleration, In/Out only
There is one that can be added to a laptop, cannot remember its name. Some one will chime in with details
BUT for a laptop it needs an express card slot that eliminates a USB3 card unless the laptop has USB3, will happen someday but not right now

Regards Barry
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The GV NLE Cards have no acceleration, In/Out only
There is one that can be added to a laptop, cannot remember its name. Some one will chime in with details
BUT for a laptop it needs an express card slot that eliminates a USB3 card unless the laptop has USB3, will happen someday but not right now

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