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Old 05-28-2017, 04:04 AM   #1
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I'm building a new editing computer would appreciate any suggestions on a processor motherboard video card Ram,ssd etc
Need something that will be able to handle 4K footage I'll be shooting that and xavc

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Old 05-29-2017, 10:05 AM   #2
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As a first step, my suggestion is to search through this forum. There has been quite interesting discussion about Intel CPUs versus the new AMD Ryzen CPUs, which should be considered, for example.

Apart from that my advice would be to have a closer look at the signatures of the forum members here, for many of them tell us their system specifications. Have a look at those who are editing with Edius 8.x - they obviously must have some relatively new and/or powerful systems.

General points to consider:
- Intel i7 vs. AMD Ryzen (Intel QuickSync!)
- 2 fast SSDs (one for OS, one for Editing), additional storage space on HDD
- onboard graphics (again Intel QuickSync) versus or plus additional GPU (including the question, how many monitors you would want to connect)
- maybe a lot of other points... ;-)
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Old 05-29-2017, 09:42 PM   #3
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Jim, if you do not need to do it now I would wait a few months as there are too many new CPU's coming out this summer. WD and Sandisk have also just announced some new SSD's so lots happening that will have an effect on performance and price.
I too would like a PC that would do multicam with UHD. Currently my i7 4790K at 1/4 preview resolution will edit both the GH5 and AX1 ( both UHD 60P ) with 2 more tracks ( both XAVC-S 1920x1080 60P), in a 1920 x1080 project, just about !!! With 1 track of UHD and 3 XAVC-S then 1/2 preview is OK. I am thinking of keeping my present system for authoring and encoding and just getting a minimal beast to edit !! I think that has to be at least 8 core cpu and for me that also means getting a GPU that I have not had in my systems for some years now since all CPU's have been Intel with Quicksync.
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Old 05-30-2017, 09:47 AM   #4
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Jim,

I put together a system last year, using a I7-6700K cpu.
I can edit, in real time (most of the time) 2 UHD sources. I do need to be in proxy mode, but it work. The UHD 60p 150fps footage is on a Raid setup. 2 7200 WD drives. Each of my UHD tracks has a custom layout to make each source about 25%. This is so I can see/edit both source footage. My cpu is running at 4.7gig and when editing, I'm using 97 to 100% of the CPU, but not too much drive action. Adding filters and effects will start to slow the system down. I'm thinking 5 to 5.5gigs would be enough. I'm already over-clocked, so I would need a new/faster CPU too.

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Old 05-30-2017, 07:58 PM   #5
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Jim, if you do not need to do it now I would wait a few months as there are too many new CPU's coming out this summer.
Boy, was that comment on the money!

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Old 05-30-2017, 09:42 PM   #6
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The 10 core isn't a bad deal now.
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It will also be interesting to see what price AMD put on their 16 core Threadripper. I suspect it will be just over half the price of the Intel part making it also a good part to look at if performance is good. Definitely a time to wait to build a new system.
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Unless AMD has a trick up it's sleeve to reduce heat with additional cores
(I don't see that happening)the 16 core will be hard pressed to make 4Ghz. After all, the 1700x and the 1800x are having issues getting to 4.1GHz with just 8 cores. If they fix the 20 degree temperature offset, that might help.

Multi-threaded operations of Edius will benefit from more cores in the AMD, but single threaded operations will suffer because of the low clock speed.
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Personally, the $1,000 price tag for the 10 core/20 thread chip that can clock to 4.5GHz is not bad. It's $600 cheaper than the 6950x was at release. The lower price can be attributed to AMD. However, the price is in line with every Extreme chip I have ever purchased. Since the 6950x can clock that high, the 7900x should be able to as well.
The 7900X and a 1080ti would be a nice combo.
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The 7900X and a 1080ti would be a nice combo. Agreed, that would be nice.
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Old 05-31-2017, 07:55 PM   #10
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It will be interesting to see how the new 8 core Skylake compares to the 10 core once they are both overclocked. The $400 difference could pay for a video card upgrade.

Great time to wait and a great time be looking as Intel has been pushed off of its log. We will have to discuss in the lounge once some reviews have been posted.
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