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Old 10-30-2017, 03:42 PM   #31
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From my communication with the support department at TMPG, the rep said the plugins for version 8 would not work with version 9 of Edius.

I see GV as not caring about the plugins more than the companies who make them. Encoding is essential these days. It would be ridiculous to have great plugins that just get excluded one generation. Like nobody would care.

I hope this gets sorted out because there is no new functionality being ask for, just the ability to continue using something you have already paid for...twice.
Are you complaining about EDIUS or TMPGenc. If TMPGenc its a bit like complaining that the floor mats from your old car don't fit you new car .
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:01 PM   #32
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From my communication with the support department at TMPG, the rep said the plugins for version 8 would not work with version 9 of Edius.

I see GV as not caring about the plugins more than the companies who make them. Encoding is essential these days. It would be ridiculous to have great plugins that just get excluded one generation. Like nobody would care.

I hope this gets sorted out because there is no new functionality being ask for, just the ability to continue using something you have already paid for...twice.
Eh..... so if a third-party company says that the old plug-in won't work in the Newer version of EDIUS it is GV's fault?
Don't see the logic in that.

The plug-in will still works with the version it supported.

Anyway we are working with the third-party manufacturers to have all plugs updated.
Remember we don't make the schedule for other companies for releases . They decide when they release an update for their product.
That is not something we control. Neither do we control prices for upgrade of plugins.
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:26 PM   #33
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Are you complaining about EDIUS or TMPGenc. If TMPGenc its a bit like complaining that the floor mats from your old car don't fit you new car .
That is solid explanation. :)
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Old 10-30-2017, 04:43 PM   #34
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Eh..... so if a third-party company says that the old plug-in won't work in the Newer version of EDIUS it is GV's fault?
Don't see the logic in that.

The plug-in will still works with the version it supported.

Anyway we are working with the third-party manufacturers to have all plugs updated.
Remember we don't make the schedule for other companies for releases . They decide when they release an update for their product.
That is not something we control. Neither do we control prices for upgrade prices for plugins.
I appreciate GV's stance on third party plugins but can we please be realistic about this topic? Each party blames each other when features go in the gray area. It just seems to me that working with GV from a third party's point of view is less than ideal. Kind of a 'throw your hands up in the air' effect.

Neat Video - why does the effect come in at the bottom of the stack when it NEEDS to be on the top? Contact Neat Video - "it s GV thing".

Neat Video - 10bit/8bit - "Its a GV thing".

TMPG - why aren't there export shortcuts for the plugins we have been working with for years? contact TMPG - "it a GV thing".

I was going to type some diatribe but it comes down to this - I see GV as responsible as well as the third parties to bring the presence of high level plugins into the software. GV does not want to develop them, so other companies need to be present to keep the NLE up to date. Without great tools we will be stuck in older versions and not upgrading.

Yes I am complaining about this because it may determine if I can ever upgrade Edius beyond version 8. Seems rather important to me.
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Old 10-30-2017, 05:05 PM   #35
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I think it's a bit of both worlds: Maybe the plugin interface gets improved, so 3rd party makers have to rewrite the plugin, even partial. The plugin maker also wants and needs to make some money to ensure future support.

On the other side we don't want to buy new plugins every new release EDIUS does - many of us don't buy new MS Office just because upgrading from W7 to W10.

Again, why does GV not implement x264/x265 directly?! They need H.264/H.265 export, why not take the reference?! Price?! I don't believe...
H.264 quality and speed has never been up to x264 from the internal encoder yet.
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If you do research on the product you will find that a new version of the TMPGE plugin is required for each new version of Edius.
That is their revenue stream. The new version is normally released a couple of months after the latest Edius version is released.
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That is correct.
As I said each company decides how they handle the upgrade for their plugs for a newer version of EDIUS. Some provide it free. Others have paid upgrades.
They are companies and they need income to keep the buisness running.
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Old 11-27-2017, 01:43 AM   #38
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From my communication with the support department at TMPG, the rep said the plugins for version 8 would not work with version 9 of Edius.

I see GV as not caring about the plugins more than the companies who make them. Encoding is essential these days. It would be ridiculous to have great plugins that just get excluded one generation. Like nobody would care.

I hope this gets sorted out because there is no new functionality being ask for, just the ability to continue using something you have already paid for...twice.

Version 8 plugins are perfectly working with Edius 9 WG. You just need Edius 8 on your system, install TMPG plugins and then copy in the version 9 plugin folder. Done...
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Version 8 plugins are perfectly working with Edius 9 WG. You just need Edius 8 on your system, install TMPG plugins and then copy in the version 9 plugin folder. Done...
This seems only to be the case if you install 8.53 in parallel to 9.0 in the same
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To which bit - that the plug-in works perfectly or how to install it?

On install, it will not install if EDIUS 8 is not there - so if you have installed EDIUS 9 you need EDIUS 8.53 installed or it will not install.

However, if you used to have EDIUS 8 you can just copy the plug-ins out of the EDIUS 8 folder and put them somewhere, then install EDIUS 9 and put them in the plug-ins folder for EDIUS 9 and it should work.
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