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Old 12-08-2008, 05:34 PM   #1
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I'm in the process of purchasing HDTV's or monitors for preview from the HD Storm / HD Spark cards, but the resolution parts are confusing me. Can someone answer me the following:

1. What is the best resolution to get for editing? (not bigger than 20" - 24" max due to being too close for editing)
2. When I see screen specs with 1920x1200, does that mean the '1080' side will be scaled up to '1200'?
3. Will a 1440x1080 project setting be 'scaled' up to 1920x1200 resulting in a not-so-clear display? Also will the same project setting be 'scaled' down for screen resolutions less than 1440x1080? (like some of the Sony Bravia 20" displays which have 1366x768 resolution)


I'm just confused as to what display resolution screen (HDTV or monitor) to get for the clearest display without any scaling. I've heard of 1:1 pixel mapping but there's not many monitors out there that do it.

Any input appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 12-08-2008, 05:58 PM   #2
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dont know if this helps

I think I'll go for a TV with HDMI input

http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/fo...ead.php?t=9173
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:41 PM   #3
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1. 1920x1080, some of the 1920x1200 scale the 1080 video and can have some distortion
2.Some do as above, some insert black spaces to compensate in the vertical.
3. 1400x1080 is anamorphic 1920x1080, most people don't have the visual acurity to see the difference when viewed at the proper distance.
Right now there are a bunch of full res smaller monitor starting to hit the market, the reason I posted about the Asus monitors is the price is very good for the person who might want a more inexpensive monitor for none broadcast video.
Just be sure that the native resolution is 1920x1080 and not a smaller pixel map thats up scaling to 1080.
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Old 12-08-2008, 06:59 PM   #4
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Thanks for the responses guys.

So, just to make sure, need to get:

- a 'TV' (for the YUV signals)
- 1920x1080, one that would put a black border on the left and right sides for 1440x1080 (no distortion)
- ideally 1:1 pixel mapping
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1920x1080, one that would put a black border on the left and right sides for 1440x1080 (no distortion)
I think you misunderstand 1440x1080, it is a anamorphic 1920x1080, so any full res screen its put on will show it as full screen not pillar-boxed.
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I think you misunderstand 1440x1080, it is a anamorphic 1920x1080, so any full res screen its put on will show it as full screen not pillar-boxed.
Sorry for my ignorance in this field. What is anamorphic 1440x1080 / 1920x1080? Is it a scaled version of some sort? Distorted in any way?
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What is anamorphic 1440x1080 / 1920x1080?
1920x1080 is a square pixel matrix, 1440x1080 is anamorphic which means the pixels instead of being square are wider horiz. than vert. by a ratio of 1.33:1 which will overlay a 1920x1080 square screen for a proper fit, same principle as a SD widescreen
below is a link which has some insight into 16:10 screens over a 16:9
http://www.adamwilt.com/HDV/hp2335.html
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Thanks, that clears things up.
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I think I'll go for a TV with HDMI input
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I think I'll go for a samsung TV, what would you pick yourself
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I think I'll go for a samsung TV, what would you pick yourself
Tony, looking at your posts regarding monitors and the HD Spark/HD Storm questions, looks like were both in the same boat!

Just been browsing and cannot find a 1920x1080 LCD TV less than 32". The Toshiba ones look good with their 1:1 pixel mapping.

The Samsungs look good too, but I was now under the impression we had to stick to 'TVs' for their YUV signals?? Or would a normal monitor with 1920x1080 resolution be good enough?
What size/model is the samsung your looking into?
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