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Old 10-26-2011, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default How can I make cinematic fades w/o Vitascene?

The fade in and out that you can make with Edius using the Mix section is good enough, but I miss the kind of cinematic fades I could do with Vegas. Vitascene has some similar fades, but I was wondering if it can be done in Edius natively, without resorting to Vitascene.

The kind of fade I'm talking about looks much more like the ones you see in movies, in which the brighter portions of the image seem to appear first and with a higher contrast. It's hard to explain, if you know how it looks in Vegas you probably know what I'm talking about.

I tried a few things like the keyers along with the fade in in the mix area, but no luck there. Any suggestions?
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Old 10-26-2011, 08:07 PM   #2
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What about white flash?
http://ediusforum.grassvalley.com/fo...ht=white+flash

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I tried it just selecting black instead of white but doing what it says on that post, and it doesn't give me a cinematic look, it just seems to delay the fade. I tried changing parameters but it doesn't seem to work for what I need. Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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and why not using VitaScene? You coud try to modify the presets.

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I use Vitascene if I don't have a choice, but I can't stomach the interface. It's a visually painful experience similar to watching the last Transformers movie. Especially when you launch it from Edius, which has such a beautiful interface.
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The fade in and out that you can make with Edius using the Mix section is good enough, but I miss the kind of cinematic fades I could do with Vegas. Vitascene has some similar fades, but I was wondering if it can be done in Edius natively, without resorting to Vitascene.

The kind of fade I'm talking about looks much more like the ones you see in movies, in which the brighter portions of the image seem to appear first and with a higher contrast. It's hard to explain, if you know how it looks in Vegas you probably know what I'm talking about.

I tried a few things like the keyers along with the fade in in the mix area, but no luck there. Any suggestions?
Is this the look you are after. I did this tutorial way back on Edius Version 4 but the concept still works today. It may not look quite as good as the Vegas or Vitascene version but it's close. I use the Vitascene version now when I need the look. I don't modify any parameters so it is a quick few clicks and I am done.

http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News...US-4-38024.htm
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Thanks, Philip, by the screenshots it doesn't seem to be what I want, but when I have some time I'm going to follow the steps in that tutorial because it seems like a pretty interesting effect anyway.
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I use Vitascene if I don't have a choice, but I can't stomach the interface. It's a visually painful experience similar to watching the last Transformers movie. Especially when you launch it from Edius, which has such a beautiful interface.
I don't use the VitaScene interface very often, because I have all my favorite VS effect as userdefined preset on EDIUS Effect Palette

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In the tutorial I show you how to setup a preset called ShineIn and ShineOut. A little manipulation of those custom presets may give you what you are looking for. I have used the ShineOut preset from that tutorial on a clip when I have a dramatic fade to black. It takes the clip, makes it slowly change to BW and then "blows up" the whites. Put that on a fade to black and the whites seem to "burn" into the display and linger as it fades out. You could probably do the same thing on a fade in by reversing the process or using the ShineIn. It may not be exactly what you are looking for but may give you a way to build a version of it.

Was there a Vitascene preset you have used to get the look you want? If so share it with us and maybe myself or someone else could build a preset to do that look. Without seeing the exact effect I may be imagining something different than you are describing. Lots of those looks can be dupicated with Edius with a little "playing" with the filters.
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Thanks, Philip, I'll try all that later when I have a little more time since it seems to have a lot of steps and I want to do it right. The Vitascene that I tried today that kind of gave me a similar look to Vegas is the Film Fade #135, but I modified it a little bit. Not exactly the same though, but well, it's not like I'm going to put up with Vegas for the pretty looking fades anyway :D
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