Spurs Engine with FCB

John Lewis · 03-16-2010, 06:13 PM

is anyone using this plugin in conjunction with FCB and how well does it perform

Crespel · 03-17-2010, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lewis

this plugin in conjunction with FCB

Which plugin -- name it ?

John Lewis · 03-17-2010, 01:37 PM

Its a plugin for TMPGenc4 Express called Spurs Engine which works with FCB
see their website

shueardm · 03-17-2010, 03:23 PM

The Spurs Engine is the processor on the FireCoder Blu card, made by Toshiba and also found on at least one other card by leadtek and possibly more..?
To call the plugin by tmpeg the Spurs Engine is technically incorect but we do understand your question.

So to answer the question, the plugin is fantastic for Mpeg targets including Blu-ray disc, giving much more control over parameters and rock solid compatibility with Adobe Encore and SONIC programs. However on the H264 Mpeg side it does not create proper video for Blu-ray disc. (then again GV own software has little to smile about when it comes to compliancy.)

It's good with some real limitations, which pretty much sums up the whole Spurs Engine con.

Vidsmith66 · 01-26-2011, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shueardm

The Spurs Engine is the processor on the FireCoder Blu card, made by Toshiba and also found on at least one other card by leadtek and possibly more..?
To call the plugin by tmpeg the Spurs Engine is technically incorect but we do understand your question.

So to answer the question, the plugin is fantastic for Mpeg targets including Blu-ray disc, giving much more control over parameters and rock solid compatibility with Adobe Encore and SONIC programs. However on the H264 Mpeg side it does not create proper video for Blu-ray disc. (then again GV own software has little to smile about when it comes to compliancy.)

It's good with some real limitations, which pretty much sums up the whole Spurs Engine con.

Interesting, what exactly is the issue with H264 mpeg, I just bought this plugin and since I've had the encoder for a while and was just blown away at how fast it's performance was, however I bought this mainly for exporting to mp4 for web streaming sources, I was amazed as my encode times where even faster the times I was getting using FCB to do the encoding for edius' built in bluray and dvd software...plus my cpu (I7) was was practically idling the whole time so I figure maybe cuda acceleration plus the spurs engine was the reason for this, not sure but guessing edius 5 is not utilizing nvidia cuda at all. guessing here...

shueardm · 01-26-2011, 12:06 PM

they don't have a Blu-ray preset for h264, if you make your own it wont work.

Vidsmith66 · 01-28-2011, 03:18 PM

Got it thanks for the tip...

Ron Evans · 01-30-2011, 03:43 AM

There isn't a preset but one can set the spurs encode to generic AVC, CABAC, VBR( use settings to get the appropriate bit rate), encode just ES video. Change type to AVC and DVD Architect will use without re encoding. I encode audio separately either in TMPGenc or from Vegas. Source file is a HQ fine file. DVD Architect will not accept a CAVLC encode without wanting to re-encode. The TMPGenc Spurs plugin will encode AVC at about 80% of realtime so is quite fast enough and has the usual TMPGenc advantages of being able to see how the bit rate fills the disc on a nice file size graphic.

On encode it shows spurs engine active, CPU 100%, CUDA 0 % ( didn't have any filters active).

Ron Evans

Red Union Films · 01-30-2011, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Evans

There isn't a preset but one can set the spurs encode to generic AVC, CABAC, VBR( use settings to get the appropriate bit rate), encode just ES video. Change type to AVC and DVD Architect will use without re encoding. I encode audio separately either in TMPGenc or from Vegas. Source file is a HQ fine file. DVD Architect will not accept a CAVLC encode without wanting to re-encode. The TMPGenc Spurs plugin will encode AVC at about 80% of realtime so is quite fast enough and has the usual TMPGenc advantages of being able to see how the bit rate fills the disc on a nice file size graphic.

On encode it shows spurs engine active, CPU 100%, CUDA 0 % ( didn't have any filters active).

Ron Evans

Hi Ron.

The latest TMPGEnc has Spurs presets for Blu-ray, do you know if they work with your authoring apps? The bitrate options go higher than FCB exports from Edius.

Cheers.

Dave.

shueardm · 01-30-2011, 08:14 AM

When I last checked AVC it didn't work with Encore (may have been CS4). I don't have the latest DVD Architect to check.

03-16-2010, 06:13 PM	#1
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03-17-2010, 01:37 PM	#3
John Lewis Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Isle of Anglesey, North Wales UK Posts: 2,945	Its a plugin for TMPGenc4 Express called Spurs Engine which works with FCB see their website __________________ System Asus WS Z390 Pro MB, CPU i9 9900K, 32gb 3000mhz Ram, EVGA GTX1070TI, BM IP4K Win 10 Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP6, NB TFX5 Monitors Samsung 32inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70

03-17-2010, 03:23 PM	#4
shueardm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 3,504	The Spurs Engine is the processor on the FireCoder Blu card, made by Toshiba and also found on at least one other card by leadtek and possibly more..? To call the plugin by tmpeg the Spurs Engine is technically incorect but we do understand your question. So to answer the question, the plugin is fantastic for Mpeg targets including Blu-ray disc, giving much more control over parameters and rock solid compatibility with Adobe Encore and SONIC programs. However on the H264 Mpeg side it does not create proper video for Blu-ray disc. (then again GV own software has little to smile about when it comes to compliancy.) It's good with some real limitations, which pretty much sums up the whole Spurs Engine con. __________________ VIDEODESK AUSTRALIA http://videodesk.com.au

01-26-2011, 12:06 PM	#6
shueardm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 3,504	they don't have a Blu-ray preset for h264, if you make your own it wont work. __________________ VIDEODESK AUSTRALIA http://videodesk.com.au

01-30-2011, 03:43 AM	#8
Ron Evans Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,952	There isn't a preset but one can set the spurs encode to generic AVC, CABAC, VBR( use settings to get the appropriate bit rate), encode just ES video. Change type to AVC and DVD Architect will use without re encoding. I encode audio separately either in TMPGenc or from Vegas. Source file is a HQ fine file. DVD Architect will not accept a CAVLC encode without wanting to re-encode. The TMPGenc Spurs plugin will encode AVC at about 80% of realtime so is quite fast enough and has the usual TMPGenc advantages of being able to see how the bit rate fills the disc on a nice file size graphic. On encode it shows spurs engine active, CPU 100%, CUDA 0 % ( didn't have any filters active). Ron Evans __________________ Ron Evans Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 SATA OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 6T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS 9.5 WG, Vegas 17, Resolve Studio 16 Cameras: GH5S, GH5, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V

01-28-2011, 03:18 PM	#7
Vidsmith66 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Wilmington Delaware Posts: 71	Got it thanks for the tip...

01-30-2011, 08:14 AM	#10
shueardm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: South Australia Posts: 3,504	When I last checked AVC it didn't work with Encore (may have been CS4). I don't have the latest DVD Architect to check. __________________ VIDEODESK AUSTRALIA http://videodesk.com.au

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