Primary Color Correction in Edius 9 bug.

nictau · 11-07-2019, 06:50 PM

Hi together.

I am afraid I just discovered a new bug in the PCC / 9.5.5351 version.

I have PCC and 3Way Color Correctionon and Neat Video version 5.1.4 applied on a file. If I just open the PCC the footage changes its colors like seen in the two attached pictures. If I close with "ok" the changed color will be saved (pic1). If I cancel and close the window, color turns to normal (pic2).

Can anybody confirm this strange behavior?

Jerry · 11-07-2019, 07:12 PM

What is the order in the information palette?

nictau · 11-07-2019, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerry

What is the order in the information palette?

See pic...

antonsvideo · 11-08-2019, 12:54 AM

a bug was reported already that PCC loses settings when reopening

maybe this is related

nictau · 11-08-2019, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antonsvideo

a bug was reported already that PCC loses settings when reopening

maybe this is related

Yes, probably.

Ron Evans · 11-08-2019, 02:07 PM

Yes there is a bug as I have just needed to edit my latest project in EDIUS 8.5 as Neat V5 in a similar filter line up of Neat V5, layouter and PCC with GH5 UHD VloGL source just results in an image with shadow levels at about 15 ire. Not usable. In Edius 8.5 same project will remove noise and at correct levels. Really glad I still have both versions on the PC.

Bassman · 11-08-2019, 04:59 PM

Can you explain this bug? Where does it show up, on export or inside the program? I do not see anything inside the program with Neat video 4. Is it just with Neat Video 5?

Ron Evans · 11-08-2019, 06:08 PM

I do not think it is Neat V4 or V5 I think it is EDIUS 9.5 PCC. Neat V4 or V5 work fine with the same project in EDIUS 8.53 but seems to remove the PCC conversion of log file to 709. Switch off PCC and use Neat with YUV and Colour balance to convert log and it all works. So there is an interaction between Neat and PCC in EDIUS 9.5 that is not there in EDIUS 8.53.

Bassman · 11-08-2019, 06:50 PM

Thanks Ron. It must just be with LOG footage as I am not seeing any change with my footage and Neat?

Ron Evans · 11-08-2019, 07:45 PM

Yes it is the log file that has the problem. Applying to the AX100 AXVC-S file and there is not change. It looks like the application of Neat V5 removes the PCC conversion from VlogL to 709. The same project in EDIUS 8.53 works fine so it is an issue for EDIUS 9.5

11-07-2019, 07:12 PM	#2
Jerry Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Orange City, FL Posts: 11,691	What is the order in the information palette? __________________ Jerry Six Gill DV www.sgdvtutorials.com If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me. Vistitle YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf Main System: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, 4790K@4.7Ghz, 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black. Both systems on Gigabit network Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, 980x@3.74, Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

11-08-2019, 12:54 AM	#4
antonsvideo Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sydney Posts: 22,126	a bug was reported already that PCC loses settings when reopening maybe this is related __________________ Anton Strauss Antons Video Productions - Sydney EDIUS 9 WG with Matrox MXO2, Asrock X99 Extreme 6, Intel Core i7 5960X Extreme Haswell-E 8-Core, Corsair Water Cooling, Nvidia Geforce GTX-980, Samsung 860 Pro SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 3 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Fractal Design Arc XL Tower, 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win7 Pro

11-08-2019, 02:07 PM	#6
Ron Evans Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,962	Yes there is a bug as I have just needed to edit my latest project in EDIUS 8.5 as Neat V5 in a similar filter line up of Neat V5, layouter and PCC with GH5 UHD VloGL source just results in an image with shadow levels at about 15 ire. Not usable. In Edius 8.5 same project will remove noise and at correct levels. Really glad I still have both versions on the PC. __________________ Ron Evans Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 SATA OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 6T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS 9.5 WG, Vegas 17, Resolve Studio 16 Cameras: GH5S, GH5, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V Last edited by Ron Evans; 11-08-2019 at 02:19 PM.

11-08-2019, 04:59 PM	#7
Bassman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,436	Can you explain this bug? Where does it show up, on export or inside the program? I do not see anything inside the program with Neat video 4. Is it just with Neat Video 5? __________________ Asus Prime X299-A - Intel i9 7900x all cores @4.3GHz 2 cores @4.6GHz - 32GB RAM - NVidia GTX1070 - Edius 8.53.2808WG - BM Intensity 4k - Boris RED - Vitascene 2 - Windows 10

11-08-2019, 06:08 PM	#8
Ron Evans Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,962	I do not think it is Neat V4 or V5 I think it is EDIUS 9.5 PCC. Neat V4 or V5 work fine with the same project in EDIUS 8.53 but seems to remove the PCC conversion of log file to 709. Switch off PCC and use Neat with YUV and Colour balance to convert log and it all works. So there is an interaction between Neat and PCC in EDIUS 9.5 that is not there in EDIUS 8.53. __________________ Ron Evans Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 SATA OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 6T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS 9.5 WG, Vegas 17, Resolve Studio 16 Cameras: GH5S, GH5, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V

11-08-2019, 06:50 PM	#9
Bassman Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 2,436	Thanks Ron. It must just be with LOG footage as I am not seeing any change with my footage and Neat? __________________ Asus Prime X299-A - Intel i9 7900x all cores @4.3GHz 2 cores @4.6GHz - 32GB RAM - NVidia GTX1070 - Edius 8.53.2808WG - BM Intensity 4k - Boris RED - Vitascene 2 - Windows 10

11-08-2019, 07:45 PM	#10
Ron Evans Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ottawa Posts: 3,962	Yes it is the log file that has the problem. Applying to the AX100 AXVC-S file and there is not change. It looks like the application of Neat V5 removes the PCC conversion from VlogL to 709. The same project in EDIUS 8.53 works fine so it is an issue for EDIUS 9.5 __________________ Ron Evans Threadripper 1920 stock clock 3.7, Gigabyte Designare X399 MB, 32G G.Skill 3200CL14, 500G M.2 SATA OS, 500G EVO 850 temp. 1T EVO 850 render, 6T Source, 2 x 1T NVME, MSI 1080Ti 11G , EVGA 850 G2, LG BLuray Burner, BM IP4K, WIN10 Pro ASUS PB328 monitor, BenQ BL2711U 4K preview monitor, EDIUS 9.5 WG, Vegas 17, Resolve Studio 16 Cameras: GH5S, GH5, FDR-AX100, FDR-AX53, DJI OSMO Pocket, Atomos Ninja V

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