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John Lewis 03-16-2010 05:13 PM

Spurs Engine with FCB
 
is anyone using this plugin in conjunction with FCB and how well does it perform

Crespel 03-17-2010 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Lewis (Post 106045)
this plugin in conjunction with FCB

Which plugin -- name it ?

John Lewis 03-17-2010 12:37 PM

Its a plugin for TMPGenc4 Express called Spurs Engine which works with FCB
see their website

shueardm 03-17-2010 02:23 PM

The Spurs Engine is the processor on the FireCoder Blu card, made by Toshiba and also found on at least one other card by leadtek and possibly more..?
To call the plugin by tmpeg the Spurs Engine is technically incorect but we do understand your question.

So to answer the question, the plugin is fantastic for Mpeg targets including Blu-ray disc, giving much more control over parameters and rock solid compatibility with Adobe Encore and SONIC programs. However on the H264 Mpeg side it does not create proper video for Blu-ray disc. (then again GV own software has little to smile about when it comes to compliancy.)

It's good with some real limitations, which pretty much sums up the whole Spurs Engine con.

Vidsmith66 01-26-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shueardm (Post 106232)
The Spurs Engine is the processor on the FireCoder Blu card, made by Toshiba and also found on at least one other card by leadtek and possibly more..?
To call the plugin by tmpeg the Spurs Engine is technically incorect but we do understand your question.

So to answer the question, the plugin is fantastic for Mpeg targets including Blu-ray disc, giving much more control over parameters and rock solid compatibility with Adobe Encore and SONIC programs. However on the H264 Mpeg side it does not create proper video for Blu-ray disc. (then again GV own software has little to smile about when it comes to compliancy.)

It's good with some real limitations, which pretty much sums up the whole Spurs Engine con.

Interesting, what exactly is the issue with H264 mpeg, I just bought this plugin and since I've had the encoder for a while and was just blown away at how fast it's performance was, however I bought this mainly for exporting to mp4 for web streaming sources, I was amazed as my encode times where even faster the times I was getting using FCB to do the encoding for edius' built in bluray and dvd software...plus my cpu (I7) was was practically idling the whole time so I figure maybe cuda acceleration plus the spurs engine was the reason for this, not sure but guessing edius 5 is not utilizing nvidia cuda at all. guessing here...

shueardm 01-26-2011 11:06 AM

they don't have a Blu-ray preset for h264, if you make your own it wont work.

Vidsmith66 01-28-2011 02:18 PM

Got it thanks for the tip...

Ron Evans 01-30-2011 02:43 AM

There isn't a preset but one can set the spurs encode to generic AVC, CABAC, VBR( use settings to get the appropriate bit rate), encode just ES video. Change type to AVC and DVD Architect will use without re encoding. I encode audio separately either in TMPGenc or from Vegas. Source file is a HQ fine file. DVD Architect will not accept a CAVLC encode without wanting to re-encode. The TMPGenc Spurs plugin will encode AVC at about 80% of realtime so is quite fast enough and has the usual TMPGenc advantages of being able to see how the bit rate fills the disc on a nice file size graphic.

On encode it shows spurs engine active, CPU 100%, CUDA 0 % ( didn't have any filters active).

Ron Evans

Red Union Films 01-30-2011 04:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Evans (Post 141369)
There isn't a preset but one can set the spurs encode to generic AVC, CABAC, VBR( use settings to get the appropriate bit rate), encode just ES video. Change type to AVC and DVD Architect will use without re encoding. I encode audio separately either in TMPGenc or from Vegas. Source file is a HQ fine file. DVD Architect will not accept a CAVLC encode without wanting to re-encode. The TMPGenc Spurs plugin will encode AVC at about 80% of realtime so is quite fast enough and has the usual TMPGenc advantages of being able to see how the bit rate fills the disc on a nice file size graphic.

On encode it shows spurs engine active, CPU 100%, CUDA 0 % ( didn't have any filters active).

Ron Evans

Hi Ron.

The latest TMPGEnc has Spurs presets for Blu-ray, do you know if they work with your authoring apps? The bitrate options go higher than FCB exports from Edius.

Cheers.

Dave.

shueardm 01-30-2011 07:14 AM

When I last checked AVC it didn't work with Encore (may have been CS4). I don't have the latest DVD Architect to check.


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