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bhouse 07-12-2013 04:37 PM

Check Out/Check In problem
 
HI,
I'm running Edius 6.54 on a desktop machine and a laptop.
I recently had to carry out some editing while away from base, so checked out the current project following the instructions. I elected to have hi-res files that were used in the active sequences.

I edited them successfully on the laptop making many changes including edits and importing new After Effects AVI files (backgrounds for green screen etc).

When I came to check in to the desktop machine, I copied all the project folders from the laptop to a portable hard drive, shut down the laptop then booted up the desktop system, connected the external drive, opened Edius as normal and chose to check in the project I had been working on.

The process seemed to be going well (estaimated time for completion about 20 minutes) but the PC then suffered a BSOD.

I booted into safe mode, then rebooted as normal.
On opening Edius, it asked for the project file storage directory - it has always known where it is until now.
I tried to import the project file and received a message saying "Cannot open the project file. (0x8007000d)"
I opened the project file on the external drive and had a message saying it was read only. It opened the project but some files are (quite reasonably) referenced from the external drive and many other files are simply missing.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can sort this out?

Thanks in advance,
Brian

trillium 07-12-2013 09:07 PM

save the read only project file to a new name and save and you can edit it

bhouse 07-12-2013 09:46 PM

Hi Trillium,

Thanks for your suggestion. I've tried that and the files are still all over the place: some on the original media drive, some on the eternal drive, some seem to be unknown...

antonsvideo 07-13-2013 01:54 AM

what do you mean by check out/check in?

just open the project

as long as all clips are on the external disk, all should be well

I make it a point to keep all assets that belong to a project inside the project folder

so if I need some stills or a piece of music, I first copy these to the project folder and then load them to the bin, here are all the folders I create with every new project

also, because you suffered a BSOD, you need to manually delete the lock file (as seen in screenshot)

this formula makes backup simple

GrassValley_PS 07-13-2013 02:05 AM

He was doing field editing. It sounds like you crashed before all the files were copied over, so some are pointing to the original files and some to the laptop.. After the checkout, did you work in Proxy mode at all? Since you copied the files to the laptop, did you relink all of the field to those?

bhouse 07-13-2013 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrassValley_PS (Post 213999)
He was doing field editing. It sounds like you crashed before all the files were copied over, so some are pointing to the original files and some to the laptop.. After the checkout, did you work in Proxy mode at all? Since you copied the files to the laptop, did you relinking all of the field to those?

Yes - field editing.

I did not work in proxy mode - all files were original resolution.
I am unable to open the original (desktop) project file and it does not have an associated '.lock' file.
After the BSOD incident, I had to tell Edius where projects are stored and the recent projects list (on startup) is empty.

I don't want to continue with some files on external drive and some on the desktop system as that will make future edits of this programme (it's a series of 26 x 5 minute videos to be released over 6 months) a nightmare.

Yes I may be able to relink or recopy/reimport files, but there appear to be about 500 that have gone missing and I'm keen to find a faster solution.

Thanks for all the suggestions so far - keep 'em coming!
Brian

vortigern 07-13-2013 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by antonsvideo (Post 213997)
what do you mean by check out/check in?

just open the project

as long as all clips are on the external disk, all should be well

I make it a point to keep all assets that belong to a project inside the project folder

so if I need some stills or a piece of music, I first copy these to the project folder and then load them to the bin, here are all the folders I create with every new project

also, because you suffered a BSOD, you need to manually delete the lock file (as seen in screenshot)

this formula makes backup simple

Anton are these separate foldes made under "windows" new folder in the project or folders made in "the bin of Edius"?

bhouse 07-13-2013 12:45 PM

This is all about field editing and check out/check in.
When you check a project out for field editing, Edius collects the required files and asks for a destination in whcih to save them. As I would be working on a laptop, I saved the files to an external drive.
Away from base, I then used the laptop to edit the 'checked out' project using the files on the external hard drive.
On my return to base, I connected the external hard drive to the desktop machine and chose 'check in'. Towards teh end of the ensuing file copy process, the PC had a BSOD moment.

Since then, on opening Edius the 'recent projects' folder is empty, and if I try to open the original (desktop) project file, I get an 'unable to open' message.
I can open the project file on the external hard drive, but it references the files on the external drive, not the PC internal drive. I need to get back to the desktop version as the project contains many sequences I did not check out (as I knew I would not need to edit them while I was away).

I've tried opening one of the auto-save files on the PC but it will not accept the laptop project as a 'check in' candidate (which is perfectly reasonable as it is not the file that was checked out).

The only workaround I can think of is to import sequences from the external drive. A quick experiment with a text project suggests I will end up with a very messy project with quite a few duplicates. As the data in the project already exceeds 1TB the fewer duplications the better!
Brian

antonsvideo 07-14-2013 02:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vortigern (Post 214031)
Anton are these separate foldes made under "windows" new folder in the project or folders made in "the bin of Edius"?

I make the folders with windows explorer inside the project folder, this is the first thing I do after starting new project and clicking save

antonsvideo 07-14-2013 02:29 AM

I think when using check out/checkin, there should be no video clips at all transferred when checking in, because the original clips are already there

there must be something wrong with the whole check out/check in thing, it should really use just low quality proxy files and not the full res original files

I have no reliability issues when copying a whole project folder to an external drive and then using it in a laptop

then when the edit in laptop is done, I only copy/paste changed files to the desktop, these will be only the ezp and titles and maybe still frames I created, takes seconds to do


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