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Haddock 02-13-2019 01:34 PM

Capturing with Edius in microsoft AVI
 
Some clients want only "digitilizing" their video cassette or film and want to receive a "universal" readable files on any computer.

Capturing with Edius (analogic or via DV) gives in the properties "Canopus DV.avi".

I know that there is also Microsoft DV : AVI Files Containing One DV Data Stream (Type-1)

Is it possible to choose this microsoft DV codec during while capturing with Edius ???

7hbg 02-13-2019 05:49 PM

Interesting problem:
  • In EDIUS 8.5x you can set the project to use MSDV codec.
  • You can Export using MSDV codec.
  • But you can’t capture using MSDV codec.
So the quick answer is: no.

But, do you not have to clean it up, trim the start and the end of the videos?
If you do, then it makes no difference what codec you use to capture with as long as when exporting it to DV AVI you tick the “Use MSDV Codec” check box.

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Lada 02-13-2019 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haddock (Post 318282)
Some clients want only "digitilizing" their video cassette or film and want to receive a "universal" readable files on any computer.

Why not to go with h264. This is even more flexible/acceptable than any DV codec.

dpalomaki 02-14-2019 03:38 PM

If you have to do any editing, color correction, noise reduction, stabilization, and other cleanup, it is better to capture in as lossless a format as you can, do the clean up, then export to the final lossy distribution format. MP4/H.264 is arguably the most universal distribution format for today.

What are you using to capture the analog video sources to a digital format.

Thor 02-14-2019 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lada (Post 318288)
Why not to go with h264. This is even more flexible/acceptable than any DV codec.

Interesting. I have been providing MSDV on USB sticks to clients, who are not editors. Are you saying h264 is useable by most people or other editors, or both?

Lada 02-14-2019 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor (Post 318306)
Interesting. I have been providing MSDV on USB sticks to clients, who are not editors. Are you saying h264 is useable by most people or other editors, or both?

I got the OP issue as to provide the most versatile file to be watched everywhere e.g. PC, TVs, Playstation, Android boxes …

Of course if it was intended as to provide a good quality video for further editing than I would suggest to use Canopus Codec. This can be added to the video USB stick/HDD or as a link where to download.

David Clarke 02-15-2019 10:48 AM

Nearly everything loads MP4 H.264 files (as long as the are 8 bit), which makes it a good codec for playback but it is highly compressed so the quality will deteriorate quicker if re-editing.

DV is less compressed, and most things can read it, so better if re-editing.

Uncompressed is the cleanest but takes up a lot of space. There are also quite a few varieties of uncompressed and some don't load into some programs.

GV AVI are great because they are clean and not very compressed but I am not starting to have problems loading them into some programs. The latest versions of Premiere will sometimes load up my GV AVI files and sometimes not (this is loading the same files on the same machine in the same project!). Obviously an Adobe problem but not one they will every look at.

GV MOVs used to be good because there was a free codec but Apple have changed the way video is done on a MAC and Windows programs stopped using QuickTime for Windows and instead use their own native support which means now these will not load into many programs.

Captain 02-15-2019 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Clarke (Post 318328)
GV MOVs used to be good because there was a free codec but Apple have changed the way video is done on a MAC and Windows programs stopped using QuickTime for Windows and instead use their own native support which means now these will not load into many programs.

Wow! While my English surely is not the worst on earth, I literally had to read this sentence twice to understand its meaning. ;-) David, I always appreciate your technical expertise and opinion, but please: a punctuation mark every now and then helps the non-native English speakers here to structure the phrases and translate it in order to understand the meaning of the words - particularly when it's getting technical anyway.

This is not a complaint, but a constructive request - or a reminder for all you native English speakers here (I wish I was, for so many tutorials and lectures would be much easier to understand). Please note the smiley that is definetely not in an angry condition: :-)

David Clarke 02-15-2019 01:06 PM

Ok.. GV MOVs used to be good but stuff has changed and now they are not good. :-)

Haddock 02-15-2019 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7hbg (Post 318287)
Interesting problem:
  • In EDIUS 8.5x you can set the project to use MSDV codec.
  • You can Export using MSDV codec.
  • But you can’t capture using MSDV codec.
So the quick answer is: no.

But, do you not have to clean it up, trim the start and the end of the videos?
If you do, then it makes no difference what codec you use to capture with as long as when exporting it to DV AVI you tick the “Use MSDV Codec” check box.

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Thanks for these precize answer... it was what I expected, now I am certain


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