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Foundry Films 04-24-2019 08:53 PM

HDMI Capture
 
Hello!

I've recently upgraded my editing system and am hoping to be able to do some live capturing via HDMI. I've been working in DV and have upgraded to the Sony PXW-X70 camera. I loved the workflow of being able to capture directly from my old Sony PD-150 via firewire directly into Edius. I'd like to be able to have the same workflow via HDMI.

I know this is possible but which capture card would you guys recommend? I've already spent a fair amount on the system so I'm hoping to not break the bank on a capture card.

New system specs are:

Gigabyte X479 Aorus Gaming 5 mobo
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 Ghz
Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb RAM
Nvidia Quadra P2000 5Gb
Seagate 4Tb Ironwolf HDD
Windows 10 Home 64bit

Thanks for your help!

Mike

Ron Evans 04-25-2019 12:39 AM

You don't need to capture like DV. Get a fast SD card reader and ingest into the computer at the speed of the card used in the X70. I use Sony Catalyst Browse to ingest my XAVC files. Files from my AX100 are similar to the X70 and will transfer a 2 hours show in about 6 or 7 mins.

I paid $22.99 Can from Amazon.ca for a multicard USB-C card reader.

antonsvideo 04-25-2019 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Foundry Films (Post 319910)
Hello!

I've recently upgraded my editing system and am hoping to be able to do some live capturing via HDMI. I've been working in DV and have upgraded to the Sony PXW-X70 camera. I loved the workflow of being able to capture directly from my old Sony PD-150 via firewire directly into Edius. I'd like to be able to have the same workflow via HDMI.

I know this is possible but which capture card would you guys recommend? I've already spent a fair amount on the system so I'm hoping to not break the bank on a capture card.

New system specs are:

Gigabyte X479 Aorus Gaming 5 mobo
AMD Ryzen 7 2700 3.2 Ghz
Kingston HyperX Fury 16Gb RAM
Nvidia Quadra P2000 5Gb
Seagate 4Tb Ironwolf HDD
Windows 10 Home 64bit

Thanks for your help!

Mike

you don't need to capture at all from that camera as mentioned, file transfer via EDIUS source browser will be many times faster than capture

However, if you insist on HDMI capture, get a Black Magic Mini recorder card, dirt cheap
https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/...specs/W-DLK-05 (approx $180 US)

BernH 04-25-2019 04:26 AM

Just to add to Anton and Ron's input.

Yes file copying via a card reader is way faster, and yes if you insist on HDMI capture, a BM device of some type is the cheapest route.

Here is the BUT: there is no machine control via HDMI like you are used to with firewire, so you would have to manually start and stop the capture.

Go with the card reader.

John Lewis 04-25-2019 05:21 AM

I also use a usb 3 card reader for transfer of files from the camera
Lot less hassle no need to connect cam via its psu etc plus you record less hours used for the PXW

Tobe 04-25-2019 09:58 PM

That's how I do it also...USB 3 card reader.

Foundry Films 04-26-2019 12:38 AM

Thanks for the feedback guys.

What I like about the live capture is being able to organize the files I need quickly as well as being able to review the footage quickly.

I film auditions for actors (@mikewollinstudios on instagram if anyone cares) :) so they often shoot multiple takes of the scene(s) and usually they want to review their work after each take. Without a capture card, I need to either plug my camera into a monitor for the talent to view their work and cycle through the thumbnails...not a huge issue but it is a bit time consuming/finicky and constantly plugging/unplugging the HDMI cable I feel like it will add a lot of unnecessary wear & tear.

I also need to keep track of what take the actor would like to use in the submission. Popping my memory card in/out of the camera numerous times a days to transfer files again sounds like a lot of wear/tear on the camera and the card reader. I know how delicate this stuff can be. Unless there is some way to organize the clips in the camera, it's difficult/quite time consuming to have to cycle through the clips after the session in order to determine the take the actor wants to use. I do anywhere from 5-12 of these a day so I don't usually have a lot of free time.

BernH mentioned I'd have to stand beside my computer and manually start/stop the capture...well that is exactly what I have been doing for the past 14 years and it's been great. Capture the scene, rename it and quickly review it on my computer. Once they actor decides on the take to use, it's already in Edius and I can pop it on the timeline quickly. However I do appreciate you mentioning that.

John Lewis, you mentioned I'd "record less hours used for the PXW" by using a card reader but capturing the footage live, there is no need for me to ever record onto a memory card and thus I never really log any record hours on the camera itself. Unless I'm missing something?

Probably would have been better to explain my workflow in the first post. As mentioned I've had the workflow for over a decade and it's worked great for me. Unless I'm completely missing something or if you guys can think of/know of a better work flow, I'm all ears. Maybe I've been working with DV for so long that I've missed some time saving steps somewhere?

If there aren't any suggestions then I'l l probably look into the Blackmagic card. I'll also purchase a fast card reader as well since I'll need that regardless. :)

Thanks again for your time gentleman.

Mike

dpalomaki 04-27-2019 07:03 PM

I've found the BM Intensity Pro and Pro 4K work for HDMI capture, including sources such as set top boxes, keep in mind that they do respect copy protection.

Foundry Films 05-03-2019 11:51 PM

Update!

I've purchased the BM Intensity Pro 4K card. Easy install and easy set-up. Was capturing away about 45 minutes after getting the card installed.

Thanks for the advice gang!

Mike


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