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  • Titler Pro 7 Crashing Edius Pro X! Help please

    I've been using Titler Pro 7.8.22111 in Edius Pro X since last November without issues.

    I just updated to Titler Pro 7.9.230907 but it crashes Edius Pro X 10.34.12119 in a new project and/or Edius X won't open a project that contains any existing TP titles. I uninstalled TP 7 and Edius X runs fine, all projects open and all functions work perfectly, albeit that the TP 7 titles show as missing media. But Edius doesn't crash with TP 7 uninstalled.

    I re-installed 7.8.22111 and the same crashing problems persist.

    My current projects are all now stalled and dead in the water until this resolved.

    My computer is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8750H CPU @ 2.20GHz 2.20 GHz
    Installed RAM 48.0 GB
    NVidia GeForce RTX-1080

    How to fix this?​

    Thanks!
    Cory Bretz
    Heirloom Films and Storybooks
    www.heirloomfilms.ca
    Life Stories & Family History

    MSI GT75 Laptop with i7-8750H 2.2GHz Hexa 6 Core processor, 48GB Ram, 256GB SSD + 2 TB NVME, GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X & 2 LG IPS235 monitors, Thunderbolt™ 3 & 6TB G-Drive, Edius Pro 10, NewBlueFX Titler Pro 7, VisTitle 2.6, Windows 10 Home Ver 21H1 and an army of teeny tiny video editing faeries.

  • #2
    are there any pending Win updates? 7.9 Pro has been solid here so far

    also, let EDIUS generate a system report and attach here
    Anton Strauss
    Antons Video Productions - Sydney

    EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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    • #3
      I have been using TP 7.9 on Edius X, Premiere Pro 2023, and Resolve 18.5 on the same machine without any issues.
      I would start a new project and test several templates within that project.
      I've included a video of TP 7.9 using the Elastic timeline. The setting is a 10bit 1920x1080 59.94p project. The media used is a 10 bit 3840x2160 59.94 clip.
      Attached Files
      Jerry
      Six Gill DV



      Vistitle YouTube Channel
      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


      Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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      • #4
        Thanks Anton for your reply.

        See ​EdiusSystemReport in this Google Drive folder. It was too big to attach.


        Only Windows 10 update available is Optional Quality Update: 2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KIB5029331). Should I install that?

        Snag_3c080fa.png

        Gratitude for your caring.

        Cory
        Cory Bretz
        Heirloom Films and Storybooks
        www.heirloomfilms.ca
        Life Stories & Family History

        MSI GT75 Laptop with i7-8750H 2.2GHz Hexa 6 Core processor, 48GB Ram, 256GB SSD + 2 TB NVME, GeForce® GTX 1080 8GB GDDR5X & 2 LG IPS235 monitors, Thunderbolt™ 3 & 6TB G-Drive, Edius Pro 10, NewBlueFX Titler Pro 7, VisTitle 2.6, Windows 10 Home Ver 21H1 and an army of teeny tiny video editing faeries.

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        • #5
          I have it installed and I don't have any problems.
          Jerry
          Six Gill DV



          Vistitle YouTube Channel
          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


          Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cory Bretz
            Thanks Anton for your reply.

            See ​EdiusSystemReport in this Google Drive folder. It was too big to attach.


            Only Windows 10 update available is Optional Quality Update: 2023-08 Cumulative Update Preview for Windows 10 Version 22H2 for x64-based Systems (KIB5029331). Should I install that?

            Snag_3c080fa.png

            Gratitude for your caring.

            Cory
            yes, install the optional update

            I notice you have Malwarebytes running, be sure you exclude all 3 Grass Valley folders and the NewBlueFX folder in program files

            also, check device manager for missing motherboard drivers, you have two missing, see attached

            Anton-00114.png
            Anton Strauss
            Antons Video Productions - Sydney

            EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro

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            • #7
              Has your situation improved?
              Jerry
              Six Gill DV



              Vistitle YouTube Channel
              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


              Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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              • #8
                I have a couple of questions:
                1). Did you have the NB OFX BRIDGE/TP7 combo installed prior to installing TP 7.9?

                2). Are you running any other NB software on your system?

                If you have either or both of the 2 items mentioned and continue to have problems, I would uninstall TP 7.9 and uninstall the NB OFX Bridge/7.8 free program.
                Then go into the registry and remove all entries of NB.
                Now reboot.
                Install TP 7.9 and reboot.

                See how that works.


                Last edited by Jerry; 09-14-2023, 01:26 AM.
                Jerry
                Six Gill DV



                Vistitle YouTube Channel
                https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


                Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

                Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                • #9
                  Although the new version "NewblueFX Titler Pro Ultimate 7.9.230907" does not crash my system or projects, Newblue has re-introduced the same error, that all 7.x-versions exept(!) the 7.8 have: transparent areas have a grey tint. You can show it easily by creating a rectangle with a transition from fully transparent to a defined color. The comparison with the 7.9-version (see below) shows what I mean. It is exactly the same project with the same title.
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                  • #10
                    Could you PM me the .nbtitle. If I can confirm this I will pass the info along to the engineers.

                    Take a look at the screenshot. I'm not seeing any grey areas in the alpha portion. I do see the faded
                    blue of the main color which is expected.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by Jerry; 09-14-2023, 05:39 PM.
                    Jerry
                    Six Gill DV



                    Vistitle YouTube Channel
                    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


                    Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

                    Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                    • #11
                      Since the .nbtitle-File of a small rectangle has the size of 183 kb, while the file limit of this forum is 19.5 kb, it is not possible to upload it.
                      However, it it not necessary, because you can simply reproduce it just by adding a rectangular form whith a color transition containing transparency.

                      I tried to explain the problem to newblue directly last year (mailing with Steven Sadler), but it was absolutely disappointing. He did not provide a solution,
                      he did not answer my question, if he (or the programmers) tried or could reproduce the error.
                      The bundled Newblue-Titler-version for Edius-X has the same bug. But when I found out, the commercial 7.8 Ultimate (221111) would run fine,
                      I bought it and wrote it to Steven.
                      Then I received a (probably automatic) question-mail, if I would be satisfied with the solution.
                      But there was no solution, he did not even try to confirm it. All other people (as well as the Edius-user) still have a faulty version!
                      No, I was not satisfied, and the support-reaction wasn't professional.
                      But today, the new Ultimate 7.9.230907 has the bug as well. Tested on two completely different systems (1x Edius 9, 1x Edius X).
                      I recovered my systems with a clean backup to 7.8.221111, and everything is running fine again (certainly I miss the new templates).
                      Last edited by Captain22; 09-14-2023, 05:59 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Hi Jerry,
                        thank you for reproducing the bug. You have a quite compressed transition, but the gray area can easily be seen. If you want to see it better, stretch the transition and compare with the Titler 7.8 result.
                        Attached Files

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                        • #13
                          On my monitors that still has a blue haze to it. I'll report any way.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV



                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


                          Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            Ok, I have reported this and we will just have to wait for the processing time.
                            Jerry
                            Six Gill DV



                            Vistitle YouTube Channel
                            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos


                            Main System:: Azrock z690 Taichi, [email protected], 64gb ram, Lian Li Galahad 360mm in push pull, Lian Li 011 Dynamic XL ROG case, 13 Lian Infinity fans, Win11 Pro , Samsung 980 1tb boot NVME, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, 2 TB WD 850x NVME, 1TB Samsung SSD, 12TB Raid 0, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, , Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black Edius X.

                            Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9.55, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                            • #15
                              Thank you very much. For your interest!
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