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  • Titler 7 and Edius X HELL!

    SO here is the user experience.

    Install seems to go well, Edius immediately requests an upgrade, timing I guess.
    I try out the new effects, thanks Vitascene, and the stabilizer, not as nice as Mercalli but faster maybe. Slo mo is nice

    Next day I open a show I need to make some outtakes of:
    This show has a series of titles made in TP5, when 7 was too buggy to take seriously on Edius 9..
    Well it seems 7 is even crazier on Edius X
    First I try to step through and check the titles, as I touch them up things are changing on other titles, even logos ended up in the wrong place. They were all fine when I started. Then I remove all the old titles from the job, annoying, and create two templates for the sponsor and the subject, Save them to the Library.
    This goes well. Now I create a new title, drop one of the templates on the new title and go to change the name and title,…. The world seizes up, click wait, type wait, eventually I check box out of TP7. Other windows apps on the machine seemed fine, no delays. Oh the timeline is locked, can’t do anything,” close all open dialog it says. Where? I alt tab, check the task bar, close all of Edius but the last window, no open dialog box, Have to kill Edius in Task manager. Trying to work through, this happens three times. I know killing in task manager is surely going to lead to a problems. And it does. Now even if EdiusX Opens a blank project, create new title, Title creates but no Titler Pro opens ever.

    Uninstall Reinstall same. Again, same. Clearly TP does not completely uninstall, as I can still see my templates in the library when reloaded.
    Now I get license errors on the edius X side so I have uninstalled it all.

    A lot of time is lost here, I have rolled back to edius 9 and titler 5 which although clunky, works.

    A lot of time wasted here, is there a fix or should we pursue a refund.?

    Machine is updated windows 10
    16G Ram
    RTX2060 with6 g Vram

    SSD’s for C drive and editing. System otherwise stable, stable in Edius 9 with TP5

    The user forum is not what it used to be.
    Philly, PA
    Edius 7.53 HDSpark, I7920, GTX470 Win7 64

  • #2
    Would suggest you open a ticket with Newblue Support, they are usually pretty quick to respond.
    Take it you have TP5 & TP7 installed so care is needed to leave TP5 intact. Make this clear to Newblue.
    Sys1: Gigabyte Z370 HD3 i7 8086K(4.3Ghz), 16Gb ram, 256Gb SSD system + 2x2Tb Graphics: nVidia 1060, (W10 Pro) BM IP4K, E8v3 WG; Vegas Pro19; Davinci Resolve18_Studio, GH2(hacked), Pana HC-X2000E, GoPro5
    Sys2 :Clevo i7 6700K 2.5Ghz,16Gb ram 2565Gb SSD + 1Tb, (W10 Pro), Software: E8v3 WG; Vegas Pro19,Davinci Resolve18_Studio


    • jdroadie
      jdroadie commented
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      got one going.

  • #3
    I gave up using Titler ​ inside Edius and Davinci.
    Titler 7 on Edius X and Davinci 18 Studio.

    The only way for me to use it is using the Titler standalone and then export as video with Alpha.
    Being able to use it inside Edius would be by far most preferable way of course thought, if it were usable.​
    Edit station1: i7 6700K 4 ghz, 32gb ram, Edius 9 Workgroup, Davinci Resolve studio 16, 8GB GPU & Intensity Pro 4K
    2: 17" Laptop i7 w: Edius 9 Workgroup
    3: HPxw8600 dual 3ghz Xeon, STORM 3G, , Edius 7, 32 GB ram.
    4: Edius 7, Supermicro x7da8 dual 3ghz Xeon.
    Audio: Protools & Nuendo, M-Audio and Presonus interfaces, control surfaces and preamps, dual 3ghz Xeon. 16gb Ram.
    Studio monitoring: Mackie 1402-VLZ Pro mixer and Mackie HR824 Spk. Panasonic surround system.
    And more


    • #4
      I did find New Blue was much more stable with the CPU hyper threading turned off in the bios on my dual Xeon PC and there was no performance degradation in a multi layer test in Edius as a result. It stopped the white windows where Edius had lost the plot using New Blue Plugins. I use Vistitle which works well.

      You can give the bios tweak easily and give it a try.


      Sys4: Edius9/XWG ASUS Z10PE-D16WS MB 2xE5-2696 Xeon 72 cores. 16TB RAID0 64G RAM RTX3090Ti. Samsung 55" QLED 1500 NIT HDR 4K TV. Storm3G Elite/Decklink 4K 12G HDR. Yamaha RX-A870 A/V 7.1 audio. Sys1-3 Edius 8.5 WG + RX-E1+HDBX1000 MIP HP xw8600 2 x X5492 CPU 8 cores, 8G RAM, GTX1080TI. All sys Fibred to central media pool - 5TB RAID + QLogic Fibre Switch. Central SD Pro VCR rack. All sys YUV & audio to theatre with Sony STR DN1040 7.1 audio amp with 1000W sub 63" HD 3D Samsung TV


      • jdroadie
        jdroadie commented
        Editing a comment
        seems extreme but ok.

    • #5
      have you contacted [email protected] yet
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

      EDIUS X WG with BM Mini Monitor 4k and BM Mini Recorder, Gigabyte X299 UD4 Pro, Intel Core i9 9960X 16 Core, 32 Threads @ 4.3Ghz, Corsair Water Cooling, Gigabyte RTX-2070 Super 3X 8GB Video Card, Samsung 860 Pro 512GB SSD for System, 8TB Samsung Raid0 SSD for Video, 2 Pioneer BDR-209 Blu-ray/DVD burners, Hotswap Bay for 3.5" Sata and 2.5" SSD, Phanteks Enthoo Pro XL Tower, Corsair 32GB DDR4 Ram, Win10 Pro


      • #6
        That is best. As there can be some issues with an installation that NB can fix.

        @ the OP. Can you share on of your designs that gives issues? The reason I ask is that when we test, we need to see what effects you have applied. Some are depending on GPU and such.

        Get Support or the Latest version of EDIUS:
        EDIUS support and Downloads


        • jdroadie
          jdroadie commented
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          Um so TP7 just doesnt open in Edius, except that it DID one session, lasted till I restarted Edius. Now it just creates a title but never opens, the Titles I created the day it DID work, now come up blank.
          Per the folks at New Blue I uninstalled / Reinstalled the whole kit, cleaned some registry even. Exact same thing no TP7 opens when we add a title.

      • #7
        not sure this is related but noticed today E10.34.101 that the splash screen for TP 7 will show for a few seconds. never noticed that before.
        John Sirb
        Lake Breeze Video Lorain,OH
        SYS 1: Edius 9, Vistitle 2.5, Boris Red,Neat Video, Gigabyte Z170x G5, I7 6700K 4.0Mz Skylake, G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB x2, NVIDIA QUARTO 2000

        JVC HM-100,JVC HM-700, JVC HM-600, Canon 80D


        • #8
          New Blue have been made aware of this
          System Asus WS Z390 Pro MB, CPU i9 9900K, 32gb 3000mhz Ram, EVGA GTX1070TI, BM IP4K Win 10, BD Burner 1 Evo 840 and 4 Hotswap caddies
          Plugins Vistitle 2.8, TP7, NB TFX5
          Monitors Samsung 32 inch tv as main 1 LG M2350D,1 D2343 1 DM2350D as output to (3D) IP4K, PXW X70,Canon FX400


          • #9
            Not bashing title pro any version but if you have AE the titles are great and easy to use. They work well on Edius timeline!

            Windows 10 Home 64 Bit, Edius WG 9.55.7303, Edius X WG 10.20.7490 Intel Z370X Motherboard, i7-8700K 4.7 GHz 6 core, 12 Thread LGA-1151 CPU, GTX-1080 8GB Graphics card, 500GB M.2 PCIe NVM SSD, 16 TB Raid 0 Media Drive, 32 GB DDR4 Memory, Intensity Pro 4K AV I/O, CS 5.51 Production Suite.