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    HEY you smartypants! Need some info and maybe someone here can help.
    We have a ZOOMITZVAH (yeah, it's a word now). I have all the zoom files from the host. This includes the .zoom files (2 files about 4G & 2G) and the zoom-compressed .mp4 file (1 file just under 9MB) as well as the audio files etc. As I am sure you are all in some way using zoom, you are familiar with the zoom-compressed .mp4 file as WAY poor quality, compressed to within an inch of its life, and squished to lower than SD standard. However, the raw .zoom files clearly have more info and potentially better quality.
    The question: HOW do I convert the .ZOOM files to HD video using an external better-compression method?

    Please do not refer me to the "copy the files to a previously recorded zoom meeting" method within ZOOM, as it results in the same quality file (because it's again, using Zoom's compression method). Upscaling it does not work either (tried TOPAZ) - results in a wonky-looking video.

    SO - all you smartypants techie people - ANY IDEAS??
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  • #2
    Have you contacted Zoom and asked how to convert the raw files?
    Jerry
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jerry View Post
      Have you contacted Zoom and asked how to convert the raw files?
      I have a free acct. The only access I have is to the online info. It does not have any info that will help.

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      • #4
        You can convert to a pro account for a month and get the support you need. :) Especially if it is a paid JOb. Just bill the 14.99 and cancel after a month.
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        • #5
          LOL YES! We are probably going to do that. I wanted to know if anyone knows of a .zoom to .mp4 quality converter. You guys are way tech savvy so... :)
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          • #6
            I've never encountered one of those files to be able to say. What does media info say about it if it will tell you anything.
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            • #7
              When I look at one of the files, all I get is that it's a .zoom file that is 4.43G and plays with ZOOM.

              And, all I get from the web is how to convert it using Zoom. I have seen quite a few other people asking the same question, but the general consensus is "ummmmm we don't know".
              Ginger Rogers did everything Fred Astaire did, but she did it backwards and in high heels.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
                When I look at one of the files, all I get is that it's a .zoom file that is 4.43G and plays with ZOOM.

                And, all I get from the web is how to convert it using Zoom. I have seen quite a few other people asking the same question, but the general consensus is "ummmmm we don't know".
                OK, so it isn't a standard codec that mediainfo can read.

                Here is something I found on a reddit post. https://www.reddit.com/r/Zoom/commen..._files_to_mp4/

                There's a workaround. You need all the files for this to work i.e

                .zoom files ( named double_click_to_convert_01 and double_click_to_convert_02)

                .tmp files

                Now follow these steps

                Go to the Documents > Zoom folder.

                Go into any previous meeting folder which has already been converted. Take a backup of those files, and delete the contents of the folder.

                Transfer the files of the meeting to be converted into the folder.

                Restart the Zoom app and go into the meetings interface.

                Go into the previous meeting which you've copied the files into. Now you can see the convert button being displayed.

                Press Convert. Voila!

                Note: If you don't have any previous meetings that have been recorded. No worries. Just start a meeting now, with a friend or anyone. Record the meeting for a minute or so. Now you have recorded meeting folder in Documents > Zoom.
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                • #9
                  Yeah - I know of that method I spoke of in my original post and tried it. This is Zoom's compression algorithm and it compresses the video again into an inch of it's life, worse than SD.
                  I have that crappy SD-not version LOL :)
                  Also - up-scaling crap = crap.... so that's not really an option. tried it.

                  My theory is that the 4+ and 2+ Gig files I have of this meeting (pre-compression) look like they are much better quality based on the file sizes. I was hoping that there was an external .ZOOM to .Mp4 (or .AVI... whatever) that would keep this quality intact.

                  I was hoping the techies here may know some secret weird way to do it.
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                  • #10
                    If it was a standard wrapper/codec, it might be possible, but it looks like this isn't the case.

                    I just tried a little zoom recording, and the app automatically converted the recording to .m4a and .mp4 files when I stopped the meeting. There is also an option in zoom to optimize the mp4 for a video editing application, but that seems to reduce the bitrate even further. Without the optimize option, I got about 1.5Mbps from my 720p webcam and with it i got about 850kbps.

                    My mediainfo does see the codec in the .zoom files, but the container seems to be in a format that noting can understand.
                    Last edited by BernH; 06-17-2020, 04:21 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Raw .zoom file structure seems to be changing over time. If I had a single meeting and launched/stooped recording three times it used to produce three separate .zoom files. Last time I recorded an important meeting it produced only one .zoom file out of three recording sessions started during the meeting. Initially I even freaked out thinking the last two parts of the meeting wasn't recorded. But no, after conversion I got 3 separate mp4 files. I agree that it produces a poor quality on everything that is not static screen capture or a presentation.

                      The quality is further degraded if one uses ZOOM to livestream to YouTube. It reduces quality down to HD and bitrate is under 1Mbps. Compared to that the recorded 2560 x 1440 and rescaled version was of a much much better quality. The content included narated presentation mostly.


                      All that said ZOOM produces better quality video and audio recordings than most conferencing software e.g. popular WebEX.

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