Vistitle Subtitle Tutorials

[BobGiff]

Had to go around the world a couple of times before I could figure out how to do multiple subtitles in Vistitle. The manual, the forum, Google and YouTube searches didn't seem to turn up much - or I missed them. So for future selves like me here's a beginning to get you started. Hope it saves you a few hours. http://www.hkvisdom.com/index.php/subtitle/

Jerry, I probably would have bought your tutorials if there was a best practices step-by-step guide how to do multiple foreign language subtitling via Vistitle. Maybe consider?

Best,
Bob

[David Clarke]

I recently needed some subtitles to made it in another program, Resolve, (and did a tutorial about that) because I forgot that VisTitle could do this. I realised my mistake a couple of weeks ago and saw those very same tutorials to which you link and realised that not only could I have done it in EDIUS but it worked better than than Resolve. I was planning to make a short tutorial about it myself soon.
The Vistitle's own tutorials are good but I do have to play them on double speed myself. They did take a while to find though!

[BobGiff]

I was planning to make a short tutorial about it myself soon.

Looking forward to it David. Maybe incorporate a best practices section for multiple foreign languages?

[Jerry]

Doing multiple languages is a piece of cake once you have a separate file for each language.
The key is making the first language subtitle and exporting to the file type you will use.

[BobGiff]

Doing multiple languages is a piece of cake once you have a separate file for each language.
The key is making the first language subtitle and exporting to the file type you will use.

I don't see how. Some languages are 2x the length, 2x the characters, requiring multiple lines for instance. I typically have my translation company provide the translations broken down by sentences. I use Quick Titler and space each sentence, sometimes into multiple lines, for best readability. It works but is cumbersome, which is why I'm here looking for others best practices.

[Jerry]

If you are using Vistitle, why are you using Quicktitler to setup the subtitles? All of the subtitles in Vistitle should start with a text file.
You start with a line by line subtitle in the original language. Then you make a new text file for the 1st translation. The translation should match the number of lines in the original.

[BobGiff]

I haven't used Vistitle yet. QuickTitler only.
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[DigitalDave]

The translation should match the number of lines in the original.

I'm currently getting native speaker translations done for v/o in 5 languages (NOT GOOGLE) - trust me some languages need more words to say the same thing, so just because it uses 30 words in English it may need 35 + in German etc. Whether it is fitting v/o to pics or adding subtitles, it can be a pain. the other problem with more words is it takes longer to read. I always make use of the clearcast DOH calculator that is used for TVads as it gives an indication on how long is needed for each caption

http://doh.clearcast.co.uk/