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    is there a quick function to make safe and legal colors in edius.
    in final cut there was broadcast safe plugin, it came quite handy when in a hurry. over the years i been just looking the scope but now hoping a faster solution. is there a third party plugin somewhere?

    working with edius 5.5

  • #2
    Apply one of the color correction effects (except "3-way color correction"),
    there is a tick box to limit to broadcast safe color.

    Andreas
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    • #3
      In my experience that takes care of luminance only and by harsh clipping. For chroma it has no effect, I never found any automatic method of clamping chroma in Edius. It takes manual tweaking with vectorscope and waveform meter for each clip. For saturated colours I check legality by setting the waveform meter to "Comp" and keep the chroma between -20 and +120. For this I lower wb saturation in the 3-way color correction filter.
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      • #4
        There's also NewBlueFX's Color Fixer Pro, part of their Video Essentials 5 Bundle but also available separately.

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        • #5
          Just remember that in EDIUS New Blue plugs don't support 10 bit yet . It just just something to think of if you are working with 10bit source material and you are producing for 10 bit delivery.
          Last edited by GrassValley_SL; 07-17-2014, 01:50 AM.
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          • #6
            Not sure about Chroma, but I never had issues on TV playouts!

            Andreas
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            • #7
              it is best to switch waveform to IRE mode and the vectorscope to line mode

              adjust Y levels with YUV curve
              adjust C levels with color balance filter, chroma level, reduce color until nothing shoots outside the circle in case of HD

              be sure preview mon overlay is off because it will show up in your levels as illegal, especially the VU meter
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              • #8
                Originally posted by THoff View Post
                There's also NewBlueFX's Color Fixer Pro, part of their Video Essentials 5 Bundle but also available separately.
                i purchased the program and finally got it to work.
                my first reaction is quite careful, i put color fixer pro-effect on a self made illegal color clip and looked at the vectorscope and it didn't do move anything to safe color range area. maybe i'm doing something wrong but it seems that you just have to do everything more or less manually. the tagline of colorfixer pro says: Color Fixer Pro fixes color balance, while respecting broadcast-safe color values.

                anybody have comment or advice about this? like i said, maybe i'm doing something wrong. haven't had the time yet to dip in to the program deeply.
                thanx for the help.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by kaapo View Post
                  i purchased the program and finally got it to work.
                  my first reaction is quite careful, i put color fixer pro-effect on a self made illegal color clip and looked at the vectorscope and it didn't do move anything to safe color range area. maybe i'm doing something wrong but it seems that you just have to do everything more or less manually. the tagline of colorfixer pro says: Color Fixer Pro fixes color balance, while respecting broadcast-safe color values.

                  anybody have comment or advice about this? like i said, maybe i'm doing something wrong. haven't had the time yet to dip in to the program deeply.
                  thanx for the help.
                  yep, color fixer pro works just fine, had a little rookie problem. wonderful program/plugin, very usefull and quick.

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                  • #10
                    As long as you are using 8 bit.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by kaapo View Post
                      yep, color fixer pro works just fine, had a little rookie problem. wonderful program/plugin, very usefull and quick.
                      So you were eventually able to cut out the excessive chroma values in Edius with Color Fixer Pro? Besides reducing overall saturation I don't see any clamping down on illegal levels. Nothing I can instantly see that goes beyond what Edius color tools do, and likely easier. Is there some limiter function I'm missing? A hard ceiling for chroma? That would be the holy grail for me.
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                      • #12
                        if you are shooting for broadcast, you should manually adjust levels for each clip until legal, instead of just clipping the access which reduces quality

                        I never tick safe color either, I manually use the YUV curve until correct Y level without clipping is achieved

                        if not for broadcast, you don't need to worry as much
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