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  • #31
    I'm surprised no one has confirmed the colour shift problem I am seeing when using the standard Blu-ray and AVCHD templates. Plain to see...
    Claire

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Claire View Post
      I'm surprised no one has confirmed the colour shift problem I am seeing when using the standard Blu-ray and AVCHD templates. Plain to see...
      Claire
      Is that via the TMPG Plug in or straight from Edius?
      I don't have the plugin tossed it away at the first version as I had to keep going onto the internet everytime I started Edius, pain in the butt
      Straight from Edius The Bluray and ACVCHD look ok to me, but I don't use them either
      Export a HQ to VMW5 and then author works, takes a little longer but the best I can get with 1 pass
      2 pass makes a heck of a difference with H264 or MP4 where transitions are concerned

      Regards Barry
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      • #33
        Hi Barry, I refer to the "TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC for EDIUS Pro 7" this thread is about, see my earlier posts #18,#19 & #20 when I first spotted the colour problem after initially being quite positive about it.

        The easiest way to see the problem is to render out a clip in Edius using the plug-in's AVCHD template.

        When entering the filename for the output file in the plug-in make the filename extension .m2ts instead of just .m2t which will allow Edius to recognise it properly and it will add it to the bin when done.

        Now drag it from the bin and place it over the original clip on the timeline on a higher video track. You should now be able to easily see the difference in colours to the original, especially if you toggle the higher track on/off. As it stands this is not acceptable, I assume it's a bug?
        Claire

        Edius 8.53 Workgroup, DVC Built i7 5960X 8 core Haswell-E Unlocked, Win10 Pro 64 bit, Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4, 32GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Decklink 4K Extreme 12G, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC, Eizo 31" ColorEdge CG319X HDR 4K monitor

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        • #34
          Thanks Claire
          Just wanted to clarify as sometimes people get off track, just to make sure I was not missing something from within Edius

          Regards Barry
          Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
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          Canon XH-A1/ Canon HF-G30, GoPro Hero3 Black, Edit @1920 50p HQ preset

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          • #35
            Claire, I did an A B comparison while looking at the waveform and I do see an IRE and a black level shift.
            Jerry
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            • #36
              Originally posted by dpalomaki View Post
              Waiting to read Anton's verdict.
              I tried it but I won't use it because it is missing the filters from the standalone version

              it is very important for me to select the Lanczos3 filter for downscaling like 1920x1080 to 640x360 or 1280x720

              because of the missing downscale filter, you get the typical downscale artifacts which are not acceptable to me

              however, if no downscaling is needed, the plugin should come in handy
              Last edited by antonsvideo; 03-08-2014, 05:25 AM.
              Anton Strauss
              Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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              • #37
                Since EDIUS has Lanzcos downscale you could feed the encoder a scaled stream. :)
                Steve

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
                  Since EDIUS has Lanzcos downscale you could feed the encoder a scaled stream. :)
                  Yes,
                  but this needs to change the project settings.
                  It would be easier to use the pre-selected resizer (in project settings) as preprocess on export too or simply an resize option on export.
                  Because I don't see that this will change, it would be great if any third party export plugin compensate it.

                  Andreas
                  Andreas Gumm
                  post production / authoring
                  PC 1Intel Core i7-970 (6 x 3.20 GHz),
                  ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, 12 GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT
                  Windows 7 Ultimate,
                  GV software: EDIUS 7.42, VisTitle v2.5,
                  GV hardware: 3G Storm
                  software SONY DoStudio Indie + EX 4.0.11
                  PC 2
                  Intel Core i7-3770, GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H F14, 16GB RAM,
                  Geforce 650 GTX, 5x HDD, Windows 7,
                  GV software: EDIUS 7.42, ProCoder 3.0
                  GV hardware: HD SPARK
                  software: Telestream Switch, DTS-HD MAS, Dolby Media Meter

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
                    Since EDIUS has Lanzcos downscale you could feed the encoder a scaled stream. :)
                    Sort of. Only if you choose to shoot in interlaced mode. If you shoot in progressive you need outside help to downscale.

                    I guess this is some technical impossibility within Edius?
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                      Claire, I did an A B comparison while looking at the waveform and I do see an IRE and a black level shift.
                      Here is an Edius still image capture, shows 100/x/75/c Color Bars on the lower track and AVCHD version from the plug-in on a higher track. I cropped the plug-in's version of it with layouter to reveal the original bars on the lower track.

                      No one else getting this problem? It reinforces what I saw with my first attempt at using this plug-in with a scenic clip. Green grass was a lighter green, bright red was a dark red, etc.
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                      Claire

                      Edius 8.53 Workgroup, DVC Built i7 5960X 8 core Haswell-E Unlocked, Win10 Pro 64 bit, Gigabyte GA-X99-UD4, 32GB DDR4 RAM, RTX 2080 Ti 11GB, Decklink 4K Extreme 12G, TMPGEnc Movie Plug-in AVC, Eizo 31" ColorEdge CG319X HDR 4K monitor

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Bassman View Post
                        Sort of. Only if you choose to shoot in interlaced mode. If you shoot in progressive you need outside help to downscale.

                        I guess this is some technical impossibility within Edius?
                        There is no limitation to interlaced formats as long as you change projects resolution to target size
                        & if you set the global resize settings in project settings to 'Lanczos 3 sharpen (best for progressive
                        footage)' (translated from german localized version).
                        Quality is comparable to VirtualDub.

                        Andreas
                        Andreas Gumm
                        post production / authoring
                        PC 1Intel Core i7-970 (6 x 3.20 GHz),
                        ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, 12 GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT
                        Windows 7 Ultimate,
                        GV software: EDIUS 7.42, VisTitle v2.5,
                        GV hardware: 3G Storm
                        software SONY DoStudio Indie + EX 4.0.11
                        PC 2
                        Intel Core i7-3770, GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H F14, 16GB RAM,
                        Geforce 650 GTX, 5x HDD, Windows 7,
                        GV software: EDIUS 7.42, ProCoder 3.0
                        GV hardware: HD SPARK
                        software: Telestream Switch, DTS-HD MAS, Dolby Media Meter

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Andreas_Gumm View Post
                          There is no limitation to interlaced formats as long as you change projects resolution to target size
                          & if you set the global resize settings in project settings to 'Lanczos 3 sharpen (best for progressive
                          footage)' (translated from german localized version).
                          Quality is comparable to VirtualDub.

                          Andreas
                          You can not change a progressive project to an interlaced project setting for DVD output. One can only change an interlaced project to interlaced SD (DVD) for encoding. If we could there would be less need for external encoding solutions.
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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Bassman View Post
                            You can not change a progressive project to an interlaced project setting for DVD output. One can only change an interlaced project to interlaced SD (DVD) for encoding. If we could there would be less need for external encoding solutions.
                            I see your point, it is annoying that our NLE can't export progressive projects to DVD.
                            But you can indeed change the project type to interlaced if you stay at the same frame rate.

                            I still miss the capability to export discs from progessive (25p, 29.97p) projects.
                            Wihle Edius can interlace on file export, Edius can't do the same job on disc export.

                            Andreas
                            Last edited by Andreas_Gumm; 03-08-2014, 09:28 PM.
                            Andreas Gumm
                            post production / authoring
                            PC 1Intel Core i7-970 (6 x 3.20 GHz),
                            ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, 12 GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT
                            Windows 7 Ultimate,
                            GV software: EDIUS 7.42, VisTitle v2.5,
                            GV hardware: 3G Storm
                            software SONY DoStudio Indie + EX 4.0.11
                            PC 2
                            Intel Core i7-3770, GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H F14, 16GB RAM,
                            Geforce 650 GTX, 5x HDD, Windows 7,
                            GV software: EDIUS 7.42, ProCoder 3.0
                            GV hardware: HD SPARK
                            software: Telestream Switch, DTS-HD MAS, Dolby Media Meter

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                            • #44
                              Sorry for being so effusive!
                              I have deleted my so called "workaround" from my previous post.
                              The way I have described did NOT work as expected!
                              Even if I flag a sequence to progressiv inside of an interlaced project,
                              the effects will be still applied interlaced.

                              My fault was to not set the preview to 'both fields'!

                              Damned...

                              Andreas
                              Andreas Gumm
                              post production / authoring
                              PC 1Intel Core i7-970 (6 x 3.20 GHz),
                              ASUS P6T Deluxe V2, 12 GB RAM, Geforce 9800GT
                              Windows 7 Ultimate,
                              GV software: EDIUS 7.42, VisTitle v2.5,
                              GV hardware: 3G Storm
                              software SONY DoStudio Indie + EX 4.0.11
                              PC 2
                              Intel Core i7-3770, GIGABYTE Z77X-UD5H F14, 16GB RAM,
                              Geforce 650 GTX, 5x HDD, Windows 7,
                              GV software: EDIUS 7.42, ProCoder 3.0
                              GV hardware: HD SPARK
                              software: Telestream Switch, DTS-HD MAS, Dolby Media Meter

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Claire View Post
                                Here is an Edius still image capture, shows 100/x/75/c Color Bars on the lower track and AVCHD version from the plug-in on a higher track. I cropped the plug-in's version of it with layouter to reveal the original bars on the lower track.

                                No one else getting this problem? It reinforces what I saw with my first attempt at using this plug-in with a scenic clip. Green grass was a lighter green, bright red was a dark red, etc.
                                Claire, Yes; I tried your workaround and it worked but one shouldn't have to do that.

                                I am having trouble producing a Blu-ray disc from the m2ts file produced, it has been stated here that Edius disc burner will do that but it does not, requesting an image file. I am doing something wrong obviously or need an extra stage in the process, any help would be appreciated.
                                Thanks.
                                Hawke,
                                Edius 8.31WG - Asus Sabertooth X58 - 3.2GHz I7 960 - 12GB RAM - SSD C drive - Win7 Pro. 64bit - BM Intensity pro 4K. TMPGEnc Movie plug-in. FCB. Sony PMW-EX1 & Panasonic HDC-SD900. Atomos Samurai Blade

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