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  • SmartSound Plug-In?

    Does anybody know of any plans on making a SmartSound/Sonic Fire Pro plug-in available for Edius?
    Andy Browne - Venice, Florida
    Edius Version 8.0 Workgroup - SYSTEM:
    Intel Core i7 3.2 ghz -12mb cache - 16gb RAM - nVidia GTX-570 - Driver 314.07 - Win7 Pro 64
    Primary Camera: JVC GY-HM170 and Sony HDR-CX700
    Audio Recorder: Zoom H5
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    Boomers Offshore Videos

  • #2
    This question is best for the company that makes Smartsound.
    Please do a search on this subject because this has been answered before.
    Thanks for understanding.
    Steve

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    • #3
      Without the plugin you just have to use what is called 'backtiming' in the radio world.
      Jerry
      Six Gill DV
      www.sgdvtutorials.com
      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

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      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


      Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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      • #4
        I used to have the plugin for Premiere way back but now just use Sonicfire Pro. Just get the time I need from the NLE, choose the music in Sonicfire and bring back in as a WAV file. If you want to time levels etc or effects you could just take the video into Sonicfire anyway.

        Ron Evans
        Ron Evans

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        • #5
          You can always import your finished production into Sonic Fire Pro and do all the audio work there.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Zorro View Post
            You can always import your finished production into Sonic Fire Pro and do all the audio work there.
            Yes that is the best approach, the audio waveform from the Video can be imported so you can see where voice over and loud sounds occur making fast to achieve the final mix

            I use an SD mpeg file, works better than HQ avi, Smart Sound expect lower field first with AVI

            Regards Barry
            Win 10HP, EDIUS WG9.4, HD Spark, Boris RED 5, VMW6, Authorworks 6, Bluff Titler, VisTitler 2.8, NEAT 3/4, Mercalli 2/4, Vitascene, Izotope RX6 Plugin, NewBlue, Trend Micro AV
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Ron Evans View Post
              I used to have the plugin for Premiere way back but now just use Sonicfire Pro. Just get the time I need from the NLE, choose the music in Sonicfire and bring back in as a WAV file. If you want to time levels etc or effects you could just take the video into Sonicfire anyway.

              Ron Evans
              I get it but the whole reason I moved to EDIUS was to improve my workflow and work more efficiently. Jumping in and out of programs, saving and importing files is a complete waste of time. If I want to "score" a video I need the ability to mix and match my musical content, changing in/out points and making lots of "what/if" decisions.

              Yes I know I can export my video and do all my scoring in SFP. But I am forever finding opportunities to tweak and improve my base video.

              PLEASE... Grass Valley and Smartsound come to some sort of agreement and build this plug-in. GrassValley wins because they will gain more customers. SmartSound wins because they will sell more music to those who are using Edius.

              Is it just me or is this really a very logical decision???
              Andy Browne - Venice, Florida
              Edius Version 8.0 Workgroup - SYSTEM:
              Intel Core i7 3.2 ghz -12mb cache - 16gb RAM - nVidia GTX-570 - Driver 314.07 - Win7 Pro 64
              Primary Camera: JVC GY-HM170 and Sony HDR-CX700
              Audio Recorder: Zoom H5
              --------------------------------
              Boomers Offshore Videos

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              • #8
                Send Smartsound an email and ask for them to build a plugin, i have been asking for years as I use smartsound on every project that i do, The more people that that email them for the request might produce a result one day.


                Steve
                Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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                • #9
                  I will put it this way:
                  Smartsound really doesn't have any intention, or interest, in creating a plugin for Edius. You can continue to email and ask, but according to the Smartsound guys at NAB, it just ain't about to happen.

                  Smartsound is a small company. Employees do multiple jobs. Over the years of going to NAB and 'being seen' I am at least recognized. I was able to get, what I thought were very candid answers, since I have been a long time customer....since V 1 and 1.5...the early days.

                  I mentioned this point in another post about plugins and Edius users:
                  1. The number of Edius users is small.
                  2. The number of Edius users that use purchased plugins is small.
                  3. The number of Edius users who use Smartsound reduces that sample.
                  4. The number of Edius users who would ACTUALLY purchase the plugin is even smaller than that.
                  5. This may be a tough pill to swallow, but in general Edius users are basically frugal. That is the politically correct term for cheap.

                  When it comes time for plugins, Edius users want the item, post threads requesting items(perfect example is Neat Video), and when it is released, do not purchase the item.

                  The tech guys at the Smartsound booth pretty much told me the first three in the list it straight out. They added that the cost of engineering time vs the revenue generated for the plugin was not worth the effort to create the plugin.

                  You can keep sending your emails, but unless something happens, I wouldn't hold your breath for a plugin. Stand alone works just fine with a little backtiming experience.
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
                  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    I think the best way for this is that the people who really want the plug-in crowd fund the development.

                    This is more of a put your money where your mouth is approach but a great way to show the Smartsound guys that you guys are serious.

                    It will also be a doze of reality for anyone brave enough to organize this.......... :)
                    Last edited by GrassValley_SL; 05-17-2013, 05:18 PM.
                    Steve

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                    • #11
                      It would be like a kickstarter campaign.
                      Jerry
                      Six Gill DV
                      www.sgdvtutorials.com
                      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                      Vistitle YouTube Channel
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                      Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                      Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, NZXT Z63, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, 2TB Sabrent M.2 NVME, BM MINI MONITOR 4K, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Dual LG 27GK65S-B 144Hz monitors, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                      • #12
                        Correct everyone can see if all the "we want" are actually "we purchase".

                        Then we can put this topic to rest either way. :)
                        Steve

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                        • #13
                          lol - now the sound of silence

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                          • #14
                            Me purchase, just because i own just about every album they released, and I use it all the time...


                            Steve
                            Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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                            • #15
                              I will purchase the plugin too, because I use smartsound in alla my project
                              Daniele

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