Is TMP5 necessary anymore?

[digitalgecko]

With Edius 6, is it necessary to process video in TMP5 anymore? Is there any advantage HD to SD or other codecs where TMP5 is better than Edius 6?

[Ron Evans]

Where you have a long program and thus need 2 pass VBR to get the most out of the low bit rate.

Ron Evans

[digitalgecko]

Where you have a long program and thus need 2 pass VBR to get the most out of the low bit rate.

Ron Evans

Good advice. I've been experimenting with quicktime files. And it looks like a big improvement over 5.5 in making smaller file sizes that look very good.

[Bassman]

This is a personal choice. In my testing, T5 still beats Edius 6 even at high bitrates. This is due to adding filters like Cotour and Color Correction in T5 to enhance the SD file.

T5 also has the best downsampling which gets rid of jaggies. So for me, T5 is still part of my workflow. Export an HD Canopus Lossess file from the timline - make BD & DVD from this file. I just learned one can open two instances of T5 at once so I can now make both files at the same time. (This is for mpeg-2 encoding as it uses less CPU than mpeg-4).

[SoundFreak_HD]

I just learned one can open two instances of T5 at once so I can now make both files at the same time. (This is for mpeg-2 encoding as it uses less CPU than mpeg-4).

Correct, a real time saver :)

My workflow will remain to export a HQfine AVI from the Edius timeline, only then you can convert multiple files at the same time in T5, if you export from time line you can only do one at the time.

[SoundFreak_HD]

With Edius 6, is it necessary to process video in TMP5 anymore? Is there any advantage HD to SD or other codecs where TMP5 is better than Edius 6?

It was never really needed as a necessity but more for users who are after the holy grail :)

E6 produces pretty good results and often (almost always) the client can't tell the difference, only when they are told where to look they might see it.
Often its the producing team that cares most regarding extreme quality, the average viewer is only interested in the story that is told.

Therefore there is no easy answer to this question, it's personal, really.
If you often get 'problem' sources from you clients it well worth it to have T5 as it's like Anton like to call it 'my swish army knife' for video, it can really do a lot.

If you have PC3 should you buy it, I don't think so.
The main question should be If you want to 'tinker' to improve already great results ..............

[Hutch TV]

STEP by STEP E6>T5>DVD conversion

You guys are right E6 does produce excellent results.

Only last night I downloaded the demo of T5 and did a side by side comparison. I couldn't see the difference. I'm reckon though I may have not had all the setting correct.

Any of you guys happy to share your step by steps in order to do this?

I would greatly apprecate it. I tried to find Anton's forumla (the big long one "that gives great results" but couldn't find it on the forum.

Thanks as I am real keen to see if there is any difference and for me a small improvement would be worth it.

What I did notice with T5 was that the encode happened real quick. Seemed quicker than Procoder so thats a really good thing.

Ron, I can totally relate to what you were saying in another post where you said T5 dual pass improves the close ups of faces. Like yourself I do multicam shoots of theatre shows and it kills me see fuzzy smiles of all the dancers.

Bring on Blu-ray!

[tony]

Did you see this from Anton?

http://www.videoproductions.com.au/html/t5-hd-sd.html

[Hutch TV]

Antons settings

Thanks for that. I will try it out.

[tony]

Thanks for that. I will try it out.

No bother, works great for me.

[Bassman]

As Tony stated, I see T5 as the best qulity search, but...it takes a long time for the files to encode for DVD. I always use 2-pass VBR and use these filters: Contour for sharpening and color correction for some saturation increase. I see a quality drop from changing the AVI decoder that Anton mentions so I stay with the default. Long but a finished product is set in stone after it is delivered, might as well go for the glory.

I use all of Anton's settings for the encoder and they are for the best quality.