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    I just built a Sandy Bridge system and installed Win 7 64 Pro. It automatically set up my 2 1T drives to be a single 2T drive (turned on RAID or something forgive me for not knowing the lingo). So now I have a single C drive. I always kept my programs on one drive and my video on another.

    So now what do I do????

    My BIOS has an option AHI (?) for hard drives. So what do you suggest?
    Gigabyte mobo with i7 K2600, 16G Ram, Storm Mobile, nVidia 570 but I'm just a hobbyist.

  • #2
    Start again. Get a small drive ( 500G ) for the OS then use the two drives for your video. Only plug in the small drive until everything is working. Then install the two other drives and reformat them.

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    • #3
      whenever you install Win7, be sure only one drive is connected

      Windows makes an absolute mess of things if there are two or more drives present

      Microsoft have not fixed it and blame it on the old DOS logic
      Anton Strauss
      Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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      • #4
        Windows only makes a mess if you let it go with the defaults, there is nothing to prevent you from setting up two physical drives as separate volumes. I set up a 64-bit Windows 7 system with two physical drives two weeks ago and got exactly what I wanted, drives C: and D: without any dynamic disk or RAID nonsense.

        I would enable AHCI in the BIOS, however. If you don't do this the system will use IDE/ATAPI emulation, which is substantially slower than AHCI. We've had a system integrator build a bunch of workstations for us and they configured the SATA controller for NATIVE (another term for IDE/ATAPI), which resulted in about a 1/3 reduction in disk throughput.

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        • #5
          yes, I always use AHCI

          and yes, whenever I installed Win7 on a new drive of my choosing and another physical drive was present in the system, Windows installer would correctly install the OS on the drive I chosen and it placed the (System reserved partition) on the other drive (making system image creation a nightmare and rendering the OS useless if the other drive dies or is removed)

          this has happened many times until I finally got clever and disconnected all drives other than the dedicated OS drive
          Anton Strauss
          Antons Video Productions - Sydney

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          • #6
            Originally posted by THoff View Post
            Windows only makes a mess if you let it go with the defaults, there is nothing to prevent you from setting up two physical drives as separate volumes. I set up a 64-bit Windows 7 system with two physical drives two weeks ago and got exactly what I wanted, drives C: and D: without any dynamic disk or RAID nonsense.

            I would enable AHCI in the BIOS, however. If you don't do this the system will use IDE/ATAPI emulation, which is substantially slower than AHCI. We've had a system integrator build a bunch of workstations for us and they configured the SATA controller for NATIVE (another term for IDE/ATAPI), which resulted in about a 1/3 reduction in disk throughput.
            I now realise that my system has not been set up as AHCI.

            Is it possible to change this? Someone has told me that I would have to re-install Windows first.

            Can anyone suggest the best way of going ahead with this?
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            • #7
              In the early days I did manage to 'hack' a windows XP installation that was originally a IDE installation, it sort of worked but not reliable.
              Not sure if it can be done in Win7 but as it is pretty fast to install from fresh I would go that route, unless you have many apps, personal settings and tweaks, then it's a much longer story.
              Tony D.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SoundFreak_HD View Post
                In the early days I did manage to 'hack' a windows XP installation that was originally a IDE installation, it sort of worked but not reliable.
                Not sure if it can be done in Win7 but as it is pretty fast to install from fresh I would go that route, unless you have many apps, personal settings and tweaks, then it's a much longer story.
                I have just found this:

                http://www.sevenforums.com/installat...ormance-4.html

                So for the time being I will stick to what I have until I am forced to do a complete re-install.
                Last edited by John Hooper; 10-29-2011, 11:24 AM.
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                • #9
                  I had a mobo failure 2 weeks ago do I swapped out the mobo + proc + ram from a Xeon to a i7.
                  For fun I booted the previous installed win7 x64 from the last system and guess what, after 5 minnutes boot time everything worked.
                  I have just collected some knowledge that in a emergency it can work but I'm convinced it's not the way to go.
                  Nothing beats a fresh install .......
                  Tony D.

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                  EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
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