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    anti virus on a machine dedicated to editing. Products like TMPGenc Master Video and TMPGenc Authoring Works require an internet connection for periodic validation of a license. Do you just connect to the internet without A/V protection? Curious because I'm ready to start a new PC I built but I'm confused on this issue.

    Thank you for your thoughts and advice.
    Gigabyte mobo with i7 K2600, 16G Ram, Storm Mobile, nVidia 570 but I'm just a hobbyist.

  • #2
    You have it on when going to on the internet or do any thing else.

    But when Editing turn it off.
    The advise is not run, it is not don't install.

    Some run it with exclusion lists but if you have too much exclusions it makes more sense to turn it off.
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    • #3
      Just use an anti virus software that can make use of exclusions.

      Exclude the main important software on your boot drive, like the GV folder where Edius resides.
      Also exclude all video storage hard drives.
      I also make an exclusion file type list with extensions like .avi .mts . Wav etc etc.
      Keep in mind my doing so you are not 100 % protected anymore but sufficient I would say, just don't surf where your not supposed to go :)
      This manner you can still trust to use a client USB pendrive if really needed.
      Besides this AVG I run Ccleaner on boot (auto config) ZoneAlarm and SpyBot search & destroy, which are all pretty light (except AVG)

      My most powerful software would be TuneUp utilities 2012, you can create a list in the turbo setting to deactivate programs you don't need.
      Once the list is created with 1 click you select all software you don't want and it will be switched OFF until you want it back, so all resources can be fully used by Edius, great software, have it running on various systems I set up for others.
      Tony D.

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      • #4
        I would like to make one small correction to this advice: have your AV solution enabled anytime your network adapter is enabled / a network cable is plugged in.

        To some people "going on the Internet" means starting a web browser or e-mail client. However, with today's always-on broadband connections, any active network connection can become a pathway for malware to invade your system unless something stands in its way.

        Some AV solutions can automatically disable all network adapter while the AV solution is turned off. That would help insure that you can not go online without the protections (AV, firewall, AS etc.) they provide.

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        • #5
          Zonealarm free Internet lock, it's a right click feature to fully lock down / disable all network adaptors, secure, stable, free :)
          Tony D.

          EDIUS WG 9.54 / MATROX MXO2 LE / WIN10 Pro WS / LENOVO P71 Workstation laptop / XEON E3-1535M v6 / nVidia QUADRO P3000 6GB / Toshiba M.2 NVMe 512GB / 2x Samsung 860 EVO 4TB / 32GB ECC RAM.
          EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by THoff View Post
            I would like to make one small correction to this advice: have your AV solution enabled anytime your network adapter is enabled / a network cable is plugged in.
            On every system we have 2 nics with 2 networks not bridged one for internet and one for storage network.
            With your advise if the storage nic active we would have to turn on Antivirus. :)

            Rule here is AV on before internet nic is made active. It has worked great so far.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by GrassValley_SL View Post
              On every system we have 2 nics with 2 networks not bridged one for internet and one for storage network.
              With your advise if the storage nic active we would have to turn on Antivirus. :)
              Yup, and that is what I would advise.

              If any system connected to the storage network gets infected, malware can and will spread.

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              • #8
                It would bog down the storage paths.
                That's why they are separate networks.

                All client delivered files are first scanned on a machine which is not connect to the network.
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                • #9
                  Slow down? Somewhat. Bog down? That's dependent on the software you use.

                  I think we just have different perspectives. I don't shoot or edit video for a living, I'm a software engineer for the largest security software company in the world, working on AV software. The approach you are taking would never pass any sort of security certification. You think you are protecting your system, but you are not. Malware could infect your computer through NFS or administrative shares and install a rootkit that loads before Windows and your AV software, making it difficult or impossible to detect and remove.

                  I'm sure you'll do what you feel is best for your situation, I just want you to be aware that there is a gaping hole in your security policy.

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                  • #10
                    13 years of doing this way and counting. :)

                    But it is always good to have a different perspective.
                    Last edited by GrassValley_SL; 10-28-2011, 07:21 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by chappyware View Post
                      Do you just connect to the internet without A/V protection?
                      Yeah sure, don't see any reason why to have an antivirus, firewall or whatever extra protection if you don't surf the internet on that machine. I also use tmpgenc and just plugin in the internet cable for a few seconds so that the validation is ok. For all other things like updates, drivers and so I just download on a dedicated internet pc, scan for virusses there and then transfer to my editing pc.

                      In all these years I never had any virus on my editing machine in this way. I know this because once a year I run a Linux virus scan dvd, it loads from dvd, downloads all virus updates from 3 different scanners and then scans my pc, never found any virus.

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                      • #12
                        I think I will follow THoff's advice from now. Someone who works as a software engineer in the AV area would really be aware of the various pitfalls and can see potential problems before they become a real problem. Thanks for your advice THoff.
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                        • #13
                          I am much like noafilm. We have 4 PC's on a network at home they are all WIN 7 64bit Home Premium. My wife's, finance, my email and browsing PC and my editing PC. The editing PC has nothing running on it but the others have virus and firewall running on them. The network goes via a router/firewall to the cable modem. Most of the time there is only 1 PC running. I check them all with Housecall at least once a week. Been that way for years. Had one issue with my wifes PC when it was running WIN 2K and Zone Alarm etc did not support anymore, I think one of her lady friends sent a joke to her !!! Got past Zone Alarm, Avast, Spybot but caught it with Housecall. That was when I upgraded all PC's to WIN7 and latest virus checking !!!

                          I scan editing PC after every new upgrade then do a backup so that if there was a problem I would clean off and reload the image.

                          Yes I accept and understand there is a risk.

                          Ron
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                          • #14
                            13 years of doing this way and counting. :)
                            You've been fortunate.

                            Risk depends in large part on what the user does on the PC. Web surfing, downloading/viewing files, using sneaker-net to view files provided by others, opening e-mails and attachments or links, allowing scripts to run, all increase risk. Not having a problem in the past is no assurance of the future any more than not being t-boned on the street in the past is of the future.

                            Another key factor is whether or not someone else believes you are a worthy target. Do you have intellectual property on your systems of significant value to them beyond your generic identity; e.g., account numbers, future product information, etc.?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by dpalomaki View Post
                              You've been fortunate.

                              Risk depends in large part on what the user does on the PC.
                              I agree . On the Editors Internet only gets activated for uploads/activation. (with firewall, Antivirus the whole works)

                              Browsing is done from an island which is protected.
                              All foreign files get scanned first.

                              It is a matter of following the rules. Simple as that. :)
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