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  • Blackmagic design hd extreme card with edius

    hi

    im thinking of getting the above card to get uncompressed hd into edius, does anyone know whether grass valley will be producing there own hd sdi/hdmi capture card to work with edius, it will be worth the wait.

    whether edius 5 will include 10 bit uncompressed hd? or ami dreamimg

    thanks

    raja
    Last edited by skraja; 04-26-2008, 11:10 AM.
    Thanks
    SK Raja

    Adobe production suite cs5
    windows 7 ultimate 64bit Edius 6 Vitscene Mercalli Bluff Titler Boris FX

  • #2
    Yes -GV/Canopus has long made a very high quality HD-SDI card. Check out the "Products" tab of this very website.

    But the pricing structure at this time is significantly higher than the brand you mentioned. The GV HD-SDI solution is also sold as a Turnkey complete system including workstation - not just as a card. Their cards have a reputation for very high quality of build.

    Unfortunately, Edius will not run if a BM or AJA card is detected in the workstation at this time. There are many Edius fans hoping this situation changes. Do a search on the forum - there has been quite a bit of discussion on this topic.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by LightPrism View Post
      Unfortunately, Edius will not run if a BM or AJA card is detected in the workstation at this time.
      Not quite so. With the later versions, you can run the software with those boards installed.

      Though as has always been the case, you cannot use the hardware directly within the EDIUS software. Whether this will change, remains to be seen.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by skraja View Post
        hi

        im thinking of getting the above card to get uncompressed hd into edius, does anyone know whether grass valley will be producing there own hd sdi/hdmi capture card to work with edius, it will be worth the wait.

        whether edius 5 will include 10 bit uncompressed hd? or ami dreamimg

        thanks

        raja
        That card has everything. Analogue, HDSDI and HDMI all on a 1 slot 2 space card. If you are just using Edius software only, you can bring in either the uncompressed or MJPEG version into Edius and it will work. Albeit, 8bit.
        I am also considering this card to replace my Intensity Pro.

        The Edius HDsdi card is a good card but dated. Newer technologies have emerged since this thing went into action with the turnkey for the $40,000
        price tag. I think they would have sold more of the cards as an OEM product, but, that is another story.
        We have asked, for many years, for an affordable HDSDI and 10bit option.
        So, get in line with the rest of us.
        Jerry
        Six Gill DV
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        If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

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        http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


        Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
        Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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        • #5
          Will it work

          So if you have Edius 4.61 installed as a OHCI (software only) it will work?
          Does this mean you can capture in Edius through this card, will Edius see it?
          and can you out put from Edius through this card? After you install the Blackmagic software Drivers ect and you go into Edius to capture footage will it give you the Blackmagic option for capture? i.e 1080i ect. As they show on there site with premiere.

          Cheers
          Steve
          Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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          • #6
            Steve, the answer is NO and NO. The BM card will certainly capture HD, analogue, uncompressed with its own capture utility but not directly into Edius. Edius can import the files after capture. And no, Edius will not use the BM card for output as there are no Edius drivers available.

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            • #7
              John

              Thank's John, I thought so, I checked out the BlackMagic site and couldn't find any drivers for Edius.

              cheers
              Steve
              Main system, Supermicro X8DAH+,Dual Xeon X5680 cpu's 24 cores,2x1400watt power supplys,SC747TG-R1400B-SQ Case,192GB 1333mhz ECC Registered ram,8 x 480GB Intel 520 SSD drives,Windows 7 64 bit ultimate, GTX 670 4GB ,2 x Sony BWU300S Blu-Ray burners, 1x Sony DVD burner,LSI 9266 Raid Controller with Cache vault & fast path Lic, ESI MayaE Audio,HD Spark,Blackmagic intensity Pro,TMPGenc 5,Episode Pro 6,Sorenson 9 Pro,Alcohol 120 V2, Edius 6.53,Dell 27"LCD,HD Spark, Powershield 3000VA UPS.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GrassValley_KH View Post
                Not quite so. With the later versions, you can run the software with those boards installed.

                Though as has always been the case, you cannot use the hardware directly within the EDIUS software. Whether this will change, remains to be seen.
                That's cool Kenneally... no longer have to disable the card(s) in Device Mgr.
                Thank you GV.

                Sorry for the mis-info - I need to come here more often to keep up.

                Hopefully the powers to be will decide to allow these other cards to work inside Edius.

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                • #9
                  Has there been any changes with this issue?

                  Can one use a BlackMagic card to monitor output from an Edius timeline?

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                  • #10
                    No changes AFAIK

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                    • #11
                      I'll be looking at getting the new AJA Xena LHi with HDMI + analog + SDI. It's got the lot for very good price on a single PCB, capture uncompresed then use a HDSpark to preview with EDIUS. real pitty that GV has no such solution, too slow to adapt to the markets needs are TGV.

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                      • #12
                        This is a great option Mark....we have been thinking along the same lines for some customers.....as yet have done no testing.

                        Regards

                        Dave
                        Main Editor - Edius 8.53 AdobeCC Mini Monitor 4K Intel X99P SLI Intel Core i7 6800K CPU Gigabyte GTX980 SanDisk Ultra Video SSD 1XINTEL System SSD 16GB Kingston DDR4 2400 RAM VisTitle 2.8 Onboard Sound 10GBE LAN WIN10Pro 64bit

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by shueardm View Post
                          I'll be looking at getting the new AJA Xena LHi with HDMI + analog + SDI. It's got the lot for very good price on a single PCB, capture uncompresed then use a HDSpark to preview with EDIUS. real pitty that GV has no such solution, too slow to adapt to the markets needs are TGV.
                          The Decklink Extreme 3 has all that plus 3gbs and Dual link now...all for list of $975. Capturing with this card to 10bit or 8bit uncompressed or MJPEG, and using the spark to preview, is much as I have been doing with my Intensity Pro for the last couple of years. I like the quality of the captures and the editing through 4.61 and my NX. I only wish GV would open up use of the Decklink or Xena cards for Edius.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV
                          www.sgdvtutorials.com
                          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            yes but I'd prefer the Xena with hardware down, up and cross conversion, plus single board design, both would be a good idea.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by shueardm View Post
                              yes but I'd prefer the Xena with hardware down, up and cross conversion, plus single board design, both would be a good idea.
                              The plus on the Decklink is it will run in either a Mac or PC. The Xena is strickly PC and the Kona cards are for the Mac. I do like the hardware cross conversion on the Xena/Kona cards. Of the two cards, I feel the AJA cards are built better.
                              Jerry
                              Six Gill DV
                              www.sgdvtutorials.com
                              If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                              Vistitle YouTube Channel
                              https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                              Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                              http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                              Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                              Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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