Edius X 13900k

[BernH]

Bern here is another video for you.

https://youtu.be/G0D-1CSGlb0

Go toward the end for the bios settings portion.

Thanks Jerry. I'll have a look.

[Jerry]

Bern here is another video for you.

https://youtu.be/G0D-1CSGlb0

Go toward the end for the bios settings portion.

[Bassman]

Here is what I am doing:

To simply lower load voltage, use load line settings. Set LLC = 4 and set IA AC to .2 and DC Loadline to 1.02.

Load Line Calibration might be different (going up or down) for each motherboard manufacturer. This setting is in the middle for Asus.

Lower AC Loadline by .02 and test for stability i.e. = .18.. Repeat until not stable.

I was able to go down to an AC Loadline of .11 but have recently moved it up to .16

That is it. Simple but very effective to bring the temps down. Hopefully this will transfer well to the MSI BIOS.

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[Jerry]

Well, then the temps are pretty much in line with the GHz.

[BernH]

I just fired up the intel extreme tuning utility, which was already installed and running by the look of it, although I don’t remember installing it. It actually has the cpu overclocking at 5.5GHz (55x multiplier), peaking at about 5.8GHz, and confirmed the clock with HW monitor, so it looks like I was running faster than stock and didn’t even realize it.

In that case, I’m not so worried. Might still try to bring the core voltages down a hair to buy a few degrees though.

[Jerry]

The catch is then translating ROG bios terminology into MSI terminology.
Every bit helps.
As I mentioned earlier, MSI has Lite Load settings that actually do something. I've seen videos where they start at level 9 and work towards a lower setting.

[Bassman]

Bern,

I have had good luck with my simple undervolt settings. I will send them over when I have a chance. I have a 360mm cooler and can run the Cinebench R23 10 minute test staying at 80C or below for the Package temp. Most P cores are in the mid 70's and the E- cores are in the mid 60's..

[Jerry]

If you are only running at 3.5GHz, mid to high 80's is waaaaaay too high. The link to the video I sent you, should help you get much better temps. Getting it to run
at 5.8GHz with those settings in the video should be a vast improvement. You may be hampered by the cooler and case.

Your other option is to use the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...intel-xtu.html
Before using this, make sure your bios settings are at default. The auto tune 2.0 will go for the fastest setting. Try using the Advanced Tuning section first.

[BernH]

Bern, you said you were in the 80c range. Those temps are not bad on a benchmark test. What is the chip speed? If you are running at 5.8GHz, that is not bad at all.

On the MSI, it appears the CPU Lite Load setting can do quite a bit. https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article.../cpu-lite-load

I’m just running at the stock speed.

I’ll do a bit more digging

[Jerry]

Bern, you said you were in the 80c range. Those temps are not bad on a benchmark test. What is the chip speed? If you are running at 5.8GHz, that is not bad at all.

On the MSI, it appears the CPU Lite Load setting can do quite a bit. https://forum-en.msi.com/faq/article.../cpu-lite-load

[BernH]

what size is your radiator and what is the make and model? 280mm should be minimum for that CPU, ideally 360mm

in your signature it says Corsair H110i, is this correct, is so that is 280mm and should be ok

the real test is to export from EDIUS timeline to Prores 4:2:2 and see how hot it gets, possibly only mid 60s

Post 8 above outlines the build on this system.

The cooler is a 280mm. As is also noted, I would have preferred a 360, but I didn't have the space for a larger one because it would have meant giving up the 5.25 bays and I needed those for a burner and DCP drive caddy.

Anyway, even hitting the temps I just mentioned is well within the specs of that CPU, with 100 C being it's thermal throttle point from what I have read, but if a little undervolt can knock several degrees off and not really impact performance, it's not a bad thing.

I'm not using only Edius to test this, as the system will be doing more than edius work, so I used passmark burn-in test with a 90% load on the CPU and other components so I could also test and monitor the other components also. All is working good, but Jerry recommended looking into undervolting for that cpu so, since it's my first build with this beast of a chip, I took his advice.

[antonsvideo]

Hey Jerry,

I got the system put together last week and have been picking away at software installs.

As you noted, this chip does run hot, and is reaching mid to high 80's C on a burn-in test, even with the water cooler. I have looked at some recommended undervolting amounts people have posted and they range from a differential of -0.05 to -0.1.

If you don't mind me asking, have you played with different voltage differentials, and if so do you have a recommendation? I was thinking about starting in the middle of that range at -0.075 and see how it looks from there.

what size is your radiator and what is the make and model? 280mm should be minimum for that CPU, ideally 360mm

in your signature it says Corsair H110i, is this correct, is so that is 280mm and should be ok

the real test is to export from EDIUS timeline to Prores 4:2:2 and see how hot it gets, possibly only mid 60s

[Jerry]

Bern, take a look at this video. It might help you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaX8ZuE2idE

[BernH]

My only suggestion is to read up on the undervolting process. This one process will allow you to keep your thermals in check.

Fortunately, many MSI undervolting videos are available on YouTube. The MSI process is fairly straight forward.

You can also use the Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. The auto setup usually reaches for the highest speed and doesn't always get the most balanced settings to prevent thermal throttling.

Have fun with the build.

Hey Jerry,

I got the system put together last week and have been picking away at software installs.

As you noted, this chip does run hot, and is reaching mid to high 80's C on a burn-in test, even with the water cooler. I have looked at some recommended undervolting amounts people have posted and they range from a differential of -0.05 to -0.1.

If you don't mind me asking, have you played with different voltage differentials, and if so do you have a recommendation? I was thinking about starting in the middle of that range at -0.075 and see how it looks from there.

[Bassman]

I have had good results with undervolting. This is a hot chip no doubt but if you can scrub off some power it can stay in the 70s at stock. Overclocking and undervolting would be the best and I have had some success with this, but then after some updates lost that gain. I am not an overclocking genius, but I would like to get 1 or 2 cores at 6 or 6.1 GHz. Will be a project going forward.