Cheap card for external TV. Some suggestions?

[Ulisse]

Hi,
I need a cheap card to export the UHD signal fron Edius 9 timeline to external 4K TV to make grading. I have to buy also a HD or 4K TV, but a small TV (around 32").
I have Edius 9 Workgroup.
To be able to spend less money but to get a decent/good video image on the external TV, could I buy a HD card or is it better buying a 4K card?
I already know I have to do video editing in HD if I use HD card.
C,ould you give me a suggestion please about a precise card I have to buy?
Thank you for your suggestions.

[antonsvideo]

yes, Blackmagic Mini Monitor 4k

[Ulisse]

Thanks a lot!
In your opinion if I spend a little more money for another and better card, could i get more?

[Jerry]

You have two reasonably priced options:
The 4k Mini Monitor for 25p/30p and the Intensity Pro 4k for 25p/30p. Both under $200 US.

To get UHD 50p/60p will cost you $900 US.

[Ron Evans]

They will do 50/60P in HD though so you can get the motion you like. You could edit in HD and then change back to UHD for export to watch on your main TV. It is what I do now with my settup though do not often use UHD for export. See my signature.

[Ulisse]

Hey Jerry, thanks for your help.
I need to ask 2 questions pplease:
1) Is it better to use a 4K external TV or a good 4K monitor for PC to make grading?
2) What can happen if I shot at 50p and I put those 50p clips on the Edius timenine and I use 4k Mini Monitor for 25p/30p or the Intensity Pro 4k for 25p/30? Is it possible to do grading with some stratagems?
Thank you again one.

[Ulisse]

They will do 50/60P in HD though so you can get the motion you like. You could edit in HD and then change back to UHD for export to watch on your main TV. It is what I do now with my settup though do not often use UHD for export. See my signature.

I read your reply late but I read good news form you, now I uderstand better.
About external 4K TV and 4K monitor for PC, which of both is better for grading?
Thank you.

[Ron Evans]

The important thing for grading is that the monitor has good calibration and better if it can be calibrated.

[antonsvideo]

a dedicated TV with full setup menu like Samsung is always better than any PC monitor as they are not designed for video viewing at all

[BernH]

a dedicated TV with full setup menu like Samsung is always better than any PC monitor as they are not designed for video viewing at all

Agreed. A video monitor with proper setup is best. Computer monitors are not designed to work natively at all video framerates and they tend to operate in RGB colour while a video monitor can often work in RGB and YUV. If you can afford an actual post production monitor, such as a Flanders or Sony instead of a TV it is better, but a good TV with the proper settings available and a proper setup/calibration can work very good too.

[Ulisse]

Now I have clear ideas, thank you.

[shueardm]

if only there were 27 inch TV's with 4K 60p

Don't forget you need EDIUS Workgroup for 4K 50/60p

[AJL14]

Ulisse - you might take a look at the LG - 27UL600-W 27" IPS LED 4K UHD FreeSync Monitor with HDR. Around $400 American. I just installed one in December powered by the BM MiniMonitor 4K, and it's got a great 4K UHD pix. Calibrates pretty well.

[Jerry]

Hey Jerry, thanks for your help.
I need to ask 2 questions pplease:
1) Is it better to use a 4K external TV or a good 4K monitor for PC to make grading?
2) What can happen if I shot at 50p and I put those 50p clips on the Edius timenine and I use 4k Mini Monitor for 25p/30p or the Intensity Pro 4k for 25p/30? Is it possible to do grading with some stratagems?
Thank you again one.

I have the Mini Monitor 4K which also passes HDR and switches automatically to your selected HDR mode.

1. If you want to edit in full resolution 25/30p there won't be any issues.

2. If you want to use 50/60p, you can start a UHD project in 50/60p and then drop the Frame size to 1920x1080 to get an output
to monitor or TV. This method also passes the HDR without issue.

3. The other method is to start a 50/60p UHD project and then in the lower section of the System Settings>Hardware>Preview Device
panel, select the Convert to format supported by device. Then select the up to 1920x1080 50/59.94P option. This option also passes
the HDR information. Look at the screen shot.

4. If you are having playback issues due to too many layers, try step two. Step three will not get as good of a boost due to the fact that
the frame size of the timeline is still in UHD.

The card is easy to install and only costs $195 US. The step up is the 12G Extreme that costs $895 US. However, it does do native 50/60p out in UHD.

[Ulisse]

I always read your suggestions carefully. They are interesting. I thank you