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    What is the best solution for full HD editing?

  • #2
    How many simultaneous streams, and what compression format?

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    • #3
      i am using different types of HD files.

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      • #4
        How much video time is typical? SSDs are still not as large as spinning disk, and the more spinning drives you have, the more benefit you get from RAID striping.

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        • #5
          Not as large yet, but you can already buy 1TB SSD's
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          • #6
            Originally posted by raz391 View Post
            What is the best solution for full HD editing?
            I normally edit 4 streams of AVCHD 1920x1080 multicam from a single 7200rpm hard drive with no problems. I always export to another drive so that the drive is not having to read and write. I think that is a good practice whatever the storage media. Bottleneck for AVCHD is the processor most of the time but not the hard drive. If you use HQ or some other high bit rate files then things may of course change. What files will you be using.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Adbear View Post
              Not as large yet, but you can already buy 1TB SSD's

              You can buy several super-fast PCIe card offerings, they are very pricy, they are also very fast ..........................
              Tony D.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by GrassValley_BH View Post
                SSDs are still not as large as spinning disk, and the more spinning drives you have, the more benefit you get from RAID striping.
                How a bout a nice raid setup with multiple Intel 910's.

                Price of course is no issue.................. right :)
                Tony D.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by SoundFreak_HD View Post
                  You can buy several super-fast PCIe card offerings, they are very pricy, they are also very fast ..........................
                  I was thinking more along the lines of the new Samsung 840's which have a read and write of over 500MB/s
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                  • #10
                    I believe Steve with his monster system has a raid of 8 intel 520's.
                    I use a 520 (similar spec to 840) and the speed quoted is non sustained speed. You won't get 500 for long (with single) SSD.

                    Maybe Steve could drop a line or 2 regarding SSD's and raid, good for all of us to know how well (or not) it works in real life.

                    I myself don't have the buget to test a couple of them, just using 1 for boot drive :(
                    Tony D.

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                    • #11
                      I'm using SSD's in RAID 0 mode for System SW without problems what so ever for years now.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Crespel View Post
                        I'm using SSD's in RAID 0 mode for System SW without problems what so ever for years now.
                        Stress on boot drive or video storage is completely different but at least good to know that SSD's perform well in raid for you.

                        Any difference that is noticeable with a O.S. raid or single SSD, not referring to boot time.
                        Tony D.

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                        EDIUS WG 8.53 / HDRX-E1 + HDBX-1000H / WIN10 Pro / DUAL XEON X5470 / SUPERMICRO X7DWA-N / SUPERMICRO SUPERCHASIS SC745TQ-920B / INTEL 520 SSD 240GB / WD CAVIAR BLACK 4TB (many) / 32GB ECC RAM / GTX 770 4GB / 2x MOTU 896HD.
                        wavearts / neatvideo / tmpgenc / hitfilm / imaginate / affinity

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                        • #13
                          I'm using HW RAID's and have a second RAID 0 for Video HDD'S in my systems.
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                          both on: 10Gbps Media sharing Network, 10Gbps NAS

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SoundFreak_HD View Post
                            I believe Steve with his monster system has a raid of 8 intel 520's.
                            I use a 520 (similar spec to 840) and the speed quoted is non sustained speed. You won't get 500 for long (with single) SSD.

                            Maybe Steve could drop a line or 2 regarding SSD's and raid, good for all of us to know how well (or not) it works in real life.

                            I myself don't have the buget to test a couple of them, just using 1 for boot drive :(
                            I have an Intel 510, 2 Intel 520's, and a Samsung 840 pro. None of the Intels can deliver the performance of the Samsung. I still get 480 read and write with 4 Seagate SATA 2, 1.5tb drives. The 4 drives cost $250. It comes down to the price point for massive storage. Maybe in a year or two, SSD's will get the space and price within a competitive range of mechanical drives.
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