cheapest core duo for HDV

[Tobe]

consider this a chance to brag about the cheapest core duo machine you have found that allows for on-the-fly capture of HQ from HDV camera files...and render free editing in Edius.
1. Edius software only.
2. Edius NX capable.

:-)

[STORMDAVE]

Any recent PC with a Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU will be able to do this easily

[ccoston]

Any recent PC with a Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU will be able to do this easily

I have the 6600 and I'd have to say I'd like it to do just a bit more "realtime" than it is capable of. I can get 1 to 2 streams realtime if I haven't added much effects to them. I would think the 6700 processor would give more bang for the buck, and if you really would like great performance, go to a QX6700. That one rocks, we were getting 6-7 streams with slow motion, old movie, etc on multiple streams in realtime using a large RAID 0.

[STORMDAVE]

You can easily overclock your E6600 to match E6700 speeds...these CPU's were made for overclocking.

Also, were you using Canopus HQ files or MPEG2 TS files?

[Jerry]

You can easily overclock your E6600 to match E6700 speeds...these CPU's were made for overclocking.

Also, were you using Canopus HQ files or MPEG2 TS files?

Yeah,
Let me second that overclocking statement. I have the X6800 and I have it overclocked to 3.3 with PC6400 ram. I ususally edit in 1920x1080 and I get
3-4 streams easy. When I roll it back to HDV 1440 29.97, I don't worry about
layers at all. I did notice at NAB that 4.5 uses a different frame buffer
setup. I don't know if that will ship or it was just for the beta.

[GrassValley_BH]

v4.5 measures the buffer in MB, hopefully so people don't go hog wild and dedicate too much RAM to the buffer because that just causes swappin to disk which destroys realtime performance.

[Aristotelis]

Yeah,
Let me second that overclocking statement. I have the X6800 and I have it overclocked to 3.3 with PC6400 ram. I ususally edit in 1920x1080 and I get
3-4 streams easy. When I roll it back to HDV 1440 29.97, I don't worry about

I don't think that you can gain a lot of real time performance by choosing the best processor...the most important component when editing with HQ (HD) files is the Hard Disks. A fast RAID array will give you a lot more than the newer processor...

[Jerry]

I don't think that you can gain a lot of real time performance by choosing the best processor...the most important component when editing with HQ (HD) files is the Hard Disks. A fast RAID array will give you a lot more than the newer processor...

Based on the information we have been giveny by Canopus, the HQ codec works on a processor/hard drive speed combination. I agree a fast array will be the best solution in a completely 10bit RGB uncompressed environment. However, being that we are using 8bit compressed, a good combination of the two would give great results.

This section was taken from the HQ white paper:

For an HD editing system to be truly efficient, a high-quality HD codec solution with an emphasis on processing speed and image quality is essential, and the Canopus HQ Codec fulfills both of these requirements.

http://www.canopus.com/contentfiles/...paper70b72.pdf

[Jerry]

v4.5 measures the buffer in MB, hopefully so people don't go hog wild and dedicate too much RAM to the buffer because that just causes swappin to disk which destroys realtime performance.

Brandon,
The machine that Pat was running, I noticed a 700+ buffer on that.
If you can tell me, how is that measured. Also, being that XP only sees 2gigs, but will use whatever, does Edius 4.5 take into account ram over 2gigs?

[Zorro]

Also, being that XP only sees 2gigs, but will use whatever, does Edius 4.5 take into account ram over 2gigs?

XP can see up to 3GB with the /3GB switch.

[Jerry]

XP can see up to 3GB with the /3GB switch.

Did you get it to work? I tried the PAE and the /3gb switch. Neither did a thing. I read that either the PAE or the /3gb switch was more for Server 2003.

[STORMDAVE]

It's 3.5 I think....but anything over 2GB is useless if you're only editing with Edius and have no other apps open.

My next machine will have: 8GB :D

[Jerry]

It's 3.5 I think....but anything over 2GB is useless if you're only editing with Edius and have no other apps open.

My next machine will have: 8GB :D

Dave, it sounds as if you are getting ready to jump to a Mac.

[STORMDAVE]

Yes sir...with the whole Adobe bundle working under OSX, I have no problem with the transition. I'll be dual booting, and if Edius 4.5 works with Parallels, then it's a much better solution than bootcamp :)

I'm moving towards full time MoGraph now and will let others do the event stuff, I'm fairly sick of them because it's the same thing over and over.

Sorry for going off topic.

[GrassValley_BH]

Max buffer size (so far) is 512MB. 700+ buffer is in an SD project.

While it sounds nice, in practice it's kind of annoying because it does take more than a few seconds to fill 700+ frames...

Application addressing limit of 2GB is a limit of 32-bit Windows.
Windows itself can see a little bit more with the appropriate switches, but it only helps if you're running other stuff and for Windows housekeeping.

The machine that Pat was running, I noticed a 700+ buffer on that.