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    consider this a chance to brag about the cheapest core duo machine you have found that allows for on-the-fly capture of HQ from HDV camera files...and render free editing in Edius.
    1. Edius software only.
    2. Edius NX capable.

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  • #2
    Any recent PC with a Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU will be able to do this easily

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    • #3
      Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
      Any recent PC with a Core 2 Duo E6600 CPU will be able to do this easily
      I have the 6600 and I'd have to say I'd like it to do just a bit more "realtime" than it is capable of. I can get 1 to 2 streams realtime if I haven't added much effects to them. I would think the 6700 processor would give more bang for the buck, and if you really would like great performance, go to a QX6700. That one rocks, we were getting 6-7 streams with slow motion, old movie, etc on multiple streams in realtime using a large RAID 0.

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      • #4
        You can easily overclock your E6600 to match E6700 speeds...these CPU's were made for overclocking.

        Also, were you using Canopus HQ files or MPEG2 TS files?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
          You can easily overclock your E6600 to match E6700 speeds...these CPU's were made for overclocking.

          Also, were you using Canopus HQ files or MPEG2 TS files?
          Yeah,
          Let me second that overclocking statement. I have the X6800 and I have it overclocked to 3.3 with PC6400 ram. I ususally edit in 1920x1080 and I get
          3-4 streams easy. When I roll it back to HDV 1440 29.97, I don't worry about
          layers at all. I did notice at NAB that 4.5 uses a different frame buffer
          setup. I don't know if that will ship or it was just for the beta.
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          • #6
            v4.5 measures the buffer in MB, hopefully so people don't go hog wild and dedicate too much RAM to the buffer because that just causes swappin to disk which destroys realtime performance.

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            • #7
              Yeah,
              Let me second that overclocking statement. I have the X6800 and I have it overclocked to 3.3 with PC6400 ram. I ususally edit in 1920x1080 and I get
              3-4 streams easy. When I roll it back to HDV 1440 29.97, I don't worry about
              I don't think that you can gain a lot of real time performance by choosing the best processor...the most important component when editing with HQ (HD) files is the Hard Disks. A fast RAID array will give you a lot more than the newer processor...
              Aristotelis Bafaloukos
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Aristotelis View Post
                I don't think that you can gain a lot of real time performance by choosing the best processor...the most important component when editing with HQ (HD) files is the Hard Disks. A fast RAID array will give you a lot more than the newer processor...

                Based on the information we have been giveny by Canopus, the HQ codec works on a processor/hard drive speed combination. I agree a fast array will be the best solution in a completely 10bit RGB uncompressed environment. However, being that we are using 8bit compressed, a good combination of the two would give great results.

                This section was taken from the HQ white paper:

                For an HD editing system to be truly efficient, a high-quality HD codec solution with an emphasis on processing speed and image quality is essential, and the Canopus HQ Codec fulfills both of these requirements.

                http://www.canopus.com/contentfiles/...paper70b72.pdf
                Jerry
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                Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GrassValley_BH View Post
                  v4.5 measures the buffer in MB, hopefully so people don't go hog wild and dedicate too much RAM to the buffer because that just causes swappin to disk which destroys realtime performance.
                  Brandon,
                  The machine that Pat was running, I noticed a 700+ buffer on that.
                  If you can tell me, how is that measured. Also, being that XP only sees 2gigs, but will use whatever, does Edius 4.5 take into account ram over 2gigs?
                  Jerry
                  Six Gill DV
                  www.sgdvtutorials.com
                  If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                  Vistitle YouTube Channel
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                  Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                  http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                  Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                  Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                  • #10
                    Also, being that XP only sees 2gigs, but will use whatever, does Edius 4.5 take into account ram over 2gigs?
                    XP can see up to 3GB with the /3GB switch.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Zorro View Post
                      XP can see up to 3GB with the /3GB switch.
                      Did you get it to work? I tried the PAE and the /3gb switch. Neither did a thing. I read that either the PAE or the /3gb switch was more for Server 2003.
                      Jerry
                      Six Gill DV
                      www.sgdvtutorials.com
                      If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                      Vistitle YouTube Channel
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                      Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                      http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                      Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                      Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                      • #12
                        It's 3.5 I think....but anything over 2GB is useless if you're only editing with Edius and have no other apps open.

                        My next machine will have: 8GB :D

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by STORMDAVE View Post
                          It's 3.5 I think....but anything over 2GB is useless if you're only editing with Edius and have no other apps open.

                          My next machine will have: 8GB :D
                          Dave, it sounds as if you are getting ready to jump to a Mac.
                          Jerry
                          Six Gill DV
                          www.sgdvtutorials.com
                          If you own the Tutorials and you need help, PM me.

                          Vistitle YouTube Channel
                          https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMVlxC8Am4qFbkXJRoPAnMQ/videos

                          Windows 10 Pro up to v.1803 Tweaks for Edius Users
                          http://sgdvtutorials.com/WIN%2010%20...%20V.2.0.0.pdf


                          Main System:: Azrock Z97 Extreme 6, [email protected], 32gb ram, Corsair H110, Win10 Pro 64, Samsung 850 pro, E7.5/8.5/E9 on separate SSD drives, HD Spark, Intensity Shuttle, 12tb RAID 0 on backplane ,2 BD, Benq 27 and Hanns-G 28 monitors, CC 2019, GTX 1080ti SC Black.
                          Second System: EditHD Ultimax-i7, X58, [email protected], Corsair H80, Win764, 24gb ram, Storm 3g, Samsung 840 Pro 256, 4tb and 6tb RAID 0 on backplane, GTX 980ti Classified, Edius 9, Apple 30", Samsung 24", dual BD.

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                          • #14
                            Yes sir...with the whole Adobe bundle working under OSX, I have no problem with the transition. I'll be dual booting, and if Edius 4.5 works with Parallels, then it's a much better solution than bootcamp :)

                            I'm moving towards full time MoGraph now and will let others do the event stuff, I'm fairly sick of them because it's the same thing over and over.

                            Sorry for going off topic.

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                            • #15
                              Max buffer size (so far) is 512MB. 700+ buffer is in an SD project.

                              While it sounds nice, in practice it's kind of annoying because it does take more than a few seconds to fill 700+ frames...

                              Application addressing limit of 2GB is a limit of 32-bit Windows.
                              Windows itself can see a little bit more with the appropriate switches, but it only helps if you're running other stuff and for Windows housekeeping.

                              Originally posted by Jerry View Post
                              The machine that Pat was running, I noticed a 700+ buffer on that.

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