Forced to do a new OS install ... PLEASE help with Storm/Edius Install Procedure

[OneQuickSix]

It looks like I have to do a fresh install of XP PRO on a new HD. Not too bad -- I suppose --as I have been running virtually trouble free for about 5 years now. But I know I'll never get my system back exactly like I had it. Anyway, I digress ...

I have a DVSTORM2 w/ StormEncoder daughterboard and was running Edius 3.6x. (Yeah, I have resisted the upgrades. On this machine it was as smooth as silk and did everything I needed to do. Lost some things I miss with V4 too.)

I am not looking forward to re-installing the Storm and Edius given all the patches, Explode Pro RT fixes, etc, etc. I have no idea what the install order is anymore, nor any of the specifics. I though there was a thread on this a while back, but can't seem to find it.

If someone could point me to an existing thread, or give me a rundown of the order and SPECIFICS of what I need to install I would greatly appreciate. (Naturally this happened just as I was about to start on some paying projects. Murphy is laughing right now.)

Thanks!

-Tim

[STORMDAVE]

Hi Tim, I barely remember what was with EDIUS 3...but it shouldn't be that hard.

I just checked the download page and all the EDIUS 3 updates are still there.

Install EDIUS 3 from the original CD, install the drivers. Run the latest patch from the download page and it should update the drivers if needed.

That's about it. If you have Xplode Pro, install that as well. Don't remember if Xplode Pro was installable in EDIUS 3 without some kind of patch?

With EDIUS 4, Xplode Pro was free.

Try to find EDIUS 4 somewhere, I think you might have an easier time with that...until you are ready to build a new machine and get the HDSTORM+ :)

[OneQuickSix]

Getting senile in your old age, eh Dave? ;-)

Thanks, Dave, but I'm looking for specifics. I know there was a critical order involving Storm drivers, the StormEncoder, etc. I know if you bugger it up you're in a world of pain. And I believe there were some drivers you didn't want to install (like the Canopus DV playback driver or something) if you have the Storm. I do have Xplode Pro (and everything else Canopus ever made, lol) and I imagine that would be one of the last thing, right?

Regarding later versions ... I have V4 on a laptop and I was never really impressed with it. Don't get me wrong, there were some nice improvements. I think it was great if you did a lot of event multi-cam stuff (which I don't), but they muddled with a lot of stuff that didn't need "muddled" and took away some great stuff (like RT Xplode, AE output, "true" Contour Shuttle Control scrubbing support, etc.) I'd install it on my desktop for certain projects if they would "play nice" together, but sadly that is not the case, and setting up a dual boot just for Edius never seemed worth it.

Take care,
Tim

[STORMDAVE]

Heh, I think sequences should come in handy. But anyway, it WAS a pain with Premiere 6.5 and the install seemed more like a ritual than anything else.

As far as 3.x, I am sure the old forum had more info on that but AFAIK there shouldn't be much of anything that you should follow.

My experienced recommendation:

1) Install EDIUS 3.x from the CD.
2) Uncheck Storm drivers
3) Run the latest update (dl from site) and let the driver install as well.

The rest is up to you.

[SoundFreak]

The last time I newly installed a friends machine was smooth, just install the Edius CD rom 3.x, reboot, then install 3.61 (if i don't remember wrongly)
the Edius drivers will automatically re-install the latest storm drivers and you're ready to go.

Before 3.61 came out there was a lot of patching to do, and your right, if you got it wrong (the order) it mostly didn't run well.
Resolved with 3.61 though ............

[Imagine Video]

it WAS a pain with Premiere 6.5 and the install seemed more like a ritual than anything else

LOL those were the days, it almost seems like a dance in my memory now.....


Why not just bite the bullit and go for 4.61 upgrade they are very cheap now
and you just need to put the storm card in the machine and install the 4.5 disc and then your TMpro disc goes in from pro 3 and the 4.61 upgrade free from download area - my storm 2 has been rock solid with 4.61

Pitty it did'nt do HDV is all I can say!!

That has to be a simple way to solve the fear of not having your ystem rock solid......

Cath

[OneQuickSix]

Thanks for all the replies. The more I think about it, the more I think you might be right and just go ahead and install 4.61. It will certainly be easier to get "up and running." If I TRULY can't be without some of the neglected items lost from 3.X, I guess I could do a dual-boot. (PhotoAlbum just came to mind ... although I don't use it much anymore.) The nesting in 4, as Dave pointed out, is really nice. As an avid After Effects user, that was a very welcome feature.

Other than potential loss of RT with XPLODE PRO (which is a biggie), losing PA2, issues with the Countour Shuttle (possible work-arounds there), and the "improved" slip/slide/trim tools in 4.x ... is there anything else I might be missing with an upgrade to 4.x? There used to be a "Edius 4.5 Gotchas" sticky, but I can't seem to find it.

Thanks again,
Tim

PS> Can PhotoAlbum run as a standalone by any chance ... maybe with a hack?

[SoundFreak]

Other than potential loss of RT with XPLODE PRO (which is a biggie)

If it was realtime in 3.x it will be realtime in 4.61, the Stormdave (now HDstorm Dave :)) render patch still works.

[Imagine Video]

now HDstorm Dave :)

Are YOU also new and improved or just the capture card ;-) he he he


4.61 will be as stable as you can get with the storm range of cards!

I have only just stopped using mine with 4.61 for sd work.......Now shoot and edit in HDV on NXe and would not go back!

My upgrade has just been sold and My last storm card is on fleabay as we speak!
So no going back for me! storm has served me well!

EDIUS 5 upgrade for my NXe is next........;-)

Cath

[OneQuickSix]

Sooo ... does anyone have a Edius 4.5 Upgrade they want to sell?

I don't know if I can post that in this forum or not, but I guess I can try and they'll just take it down.

[GrassValley_KH]

4.5 and higher, is free to anyone who owns 4.x..

[SoundFreak]

4.5 and higher, is free to anyone who owns 4.x..

I think the question was referring to the users who have bought the 5.x upgrade and have the 4.x in the closet, he wants to buy the 4.x (cheap) :)

It could be done but would make the use of 5.x upgrade by GV law NOT legal as for using the UPGRADE you'll need to be in possession of 1.x ~ 4.x at all times, right ?

[OneQuickSix]

Actually, you're both wrong. I just plain old want to purchase 4.X (i.e. 4.anything), but preferably an upgrade. Cheap is not the issue either, it's a matter of just finding it. Looks like my OS-nightmare happened a week or two too late. NO ONE has it in stock that I could find, and eBay is a dead-end as well.

Although I must say, had GV informed me that V5 was coming out (they never send me emails anymore and I've been out of the loop for some time recently) I would have jumped on V4. I'm not interested in V5 because of the lack of Storm support. V5 would be a step back for me for what I do, unfortunately.

-Tim

[SoundFreak]

If time is not of the essence you could order it from further away, not saying that it needs to come from the other side of the world where I am, but maybe Europe would be an option.

My reseller in Malaysia still has plenty stock of version 4.x but not a good idea for you as it will be a lot more expensive than in US.

Google for it and pay by credit card, it will be yours in a few days time ...........