Realtime with EDIUS 4.60 & 5

[PaulTV]

Oh boy, I just installed V5 on my Supermicro system and RT has taken a dreadful hit.

I removed the Izotope stuff as they were holding up the load time for about a minute - but I'm down to 4 layers of HQ 1440 1080 50i project with static PinP
- all this with a dual 3.4 Xeon and Rocket raid sata.

If I add an EX1 file to the timeline, then apply colour balance and soft focus it chokes - I understood that mpeg playback had been improved with V5 ??

If I place an HQ 1440 1080 50 file on the timeline and add colour balance soft focus and whitebalance it chokes

This is so bad, Edius has been rendered un usable for any practical editing here.

Anyone with any observations apart from spend 4K on a new computer?

Paul

[swsw1550]

I have noticed similar on a different system than your's, same video foramt though, load it up a bit and it chokes with realtime, and I have 64GB of DDR 2 1100mhz ram running. I have tried similar with the new Premiere Pro CS4 and don't have these problems, hopefully and update will sought all this out. This happens with 1440 X 1080 50i files on 4 layers on my machine.

Steve

[swsw1550]

Also I said in another post that I thought version 4.61 was or seemed to me to be more stable, faster, ect, maybe it is just me though. I really hope they sought out all these little bugs with Version 5 soon.

Steve

[PaulTV]

Hey Steve,

yeah, I'm finding it very sloppy, although it's good on my laptop - so I reckon we still have some horrid NX card issues going on which were present in 4.61 but not in 4.5

Going OHCI doesn't help, and what is really stupid is that converting my EX1 files to HQ doesn't make any difference in real terms to how the playback is.

EX1 file with soft and CB, buffer shows 1/2 - same HQ file same filters, buffer shows 1/2 and maybe a 3 now and then.

Sorry but you can't do any creative work with this as it is.

Oh, and my timeline cursor is all jumpy and sticky too - this is very crap indeed.

Paul

[swsw1550]

Paul I thought the same thing, I had a mate over today who had a look and we loaded 5 to 6 layers and it ran like a pig, I double checked all application settings tried a few new ones and still the same, I still think 4.61 was a little better, more stable as well, Anton sent me a Vitascene TPI file that fixed up the problem when you would open and close Version 5 a couple of times, and it just wouldn't open again without going into task manager and ending the process, But today I noticed Prodad has an update out for Vitascene for Edius 5, I downloaded it and installed it thinking thay might have fixed the problem but guess what, NO GO, had to put the TPI file back in the plugins folder and over ride the new one. This sought of stuff I thought they would have made sure was working before releasing version 5 with the extra plugins, I hope thay fix all these little problems soon though.

Cheers
Steve

[PaulTV]

Looks like I'll have to go back to 4.61 for now - bummer, cos I like the extra keyframe stuff, just can't get the thing to perform smoothly.

Paul

[PaulTV]

Just to add to this,

On my laptop, Sony Vaio AR51 2ghz core duo 4gb ram 320gb sata: Open a 1440x1080 50i project and a single Ex1 clip (mp4) with same parameters as the project. I can load colour balance, soft focus, white balance, anti flicker, YUV curve and also have the clip at 50% speed, Wavearts Trackplug and Final plug on the audio track, still plays realtime from a standing start within the clip.

Exact same settings on my NX system, if I apply soft focus and 50% speed, any additional filter causes it to choke.

Extra clues: Laptop is Vista home Supermicro is XP sp2

What gives?

Paul

[Belphegor]

Edius 5 ?

Delusion.

[wags]

UPDATE:
My retail version has turned up now and I am happy to say that it performs much better than the download 5 trial. I can have 10 tracks of Canopus HQ 1440/1080 in static pips playing back in realtime here now. 1 More than what I could do in 4.60 by the looks.

The problem with the 3D Picture in Picture is still that same though, only 1 track can play in realtime here compared to 3 with 4.60.

I wonder how many tracks of normal DV I could stack up now.

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WOW.....so it was not just me...

Guys I have installed the retail version now and it's much better. That version 5 trial download must be abit sick. Read my previous reply to this thread on top here..

That trail version was maxing out my QUAD here but this retail version is much better.

[andrewwhiteley]

Edius 5 ?

Delusion.

Whilst there do seem to be some issues with Edius 5, is it really necessary to be so negative?

[swsw1550]

No one is really negative, people are just pointing out the facts, if people don't do this how will they know what to fix.


Steve

[andrewwhiteley]

I agree we do need to know the facts but simply saying 'delusion' on threads about Edius 5 is at best stating an opinion - which appears to be negative!

[swsw1550]

I do have to agree with you on that one, had I didn't understand some one saying that.

Steve

[Belphegor]

Version 5 is claimed as a major release.

For a major release I usually expect improvements in areas where GV and users recognize lacks and issues.

Major release Edius 5 did not answer to my expectations: I hoped better things, but it's not this turn and maybe never will be.

Then it's a delusion.

For me, obviously.

Hope not to offend anyone.

[mike0130]

Version 5 will have a "special" 3D within Layout and full Alpha support. I totally understand that GV calls today's Edius as version 5, but it is not exactly it. I have to say that it will be good, really good, but you have to wait a little. Probably till Christmas, then I will say: "Yes! This is version 5!"
Please do not cry for now- our "magic" friends in Japan are working hard to make your dreams come true, let them finish the good thing, they started.